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Dick Nettleton
New member
Username: rodmaker2
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 19, 2009 - 09:38 pm: | 
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Motor choked out after cold start...wouldn't restart...figured it was flooded so I removed plugs to dry out cylinders...now...no start/no spark....any ideas? |
jwbmarine
Senior Member
Username: jwbmarine
Post Number: 5064
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 09:04 am: |
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have u actually used a spark tester to verify the no spark,..or it just wont start?... |
jamie campbell
Advanced Member
Username: outboard_doctor
Post Number: 670
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 08:46 pm: |
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First thing to do if you have no spark is disconect the stop switch or kill wire ( black wire with a yellow strip) and check again!! |
Dick Nettleton
New member
Username: rodmaker2
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 07:03 pm: |
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did it..still no spark...next best guess...power pack? |
Phil Kicksee
Member
Username: red_goat
Post Number: 64
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 11:57 pm: |
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You likely killed the power pack by not having a place for the spark to go.
If your turn over an engine with the spark plug wires just hanging there the spark has no where to go so the coil sends that energy back to the power pack backwards which ruins it.
A very common mistake on CDI equiped engines! |
Dick Nettleton
New member
Username: rodmaker2
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 08:53 am: |
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darn!........thanks for the scoop |
Bob Arganbright
Member
Username: ba_50
Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 07:41 am: |
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Phil,
I had a bad power pack on a '79 CDI and lucked out when there were 2 new ones on Ebay. I got one for $20.
Since it looks like you might have found your answer I will change the subject instead of emailing you.
If it isn't too much trouble could you tell me where the 3 lines go from the primer solenoid barbs?
I also need to know where the other fuel line goes besides the carburetor that comes from the fuel pump. Mine split after coming out of the fuel pump.
My model is an E30ELCDM
Thanks. Bob |
tony mercieca
Member
Username: tonym
Post Number: 16
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 03:40 am: |
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ive got an 40hp evinrude 2cylinder if yours is similar the 2 thin hoses goes to the carbys one to each carby and the thick hose goes to the fuel supply at the vro pump |
Bob Arganbright
Member
Username: ba_50
Post Number: 26
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 06:54 am: |
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Tony,
Mine only has 1 carburetor. I think one fuel line goes to the bottom of the carb and the other to the big port on the solenoid from the fuel pump. The two small ports go to a vacuum port one close to the fuel pump and I think the other went to one side of the carb. I think that leaves one vacuum line that splits off the other two unaccounted for. There is a port on top of the carb but the vacuum line is too small to fit it. Will check for sure. Thanks. |
Morten Ringvold
Senior Member
Username: haffiman37
Post Number: 4334
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 07:09 am: |
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Below might be of help.
17 (thick)is IN from carb.
One of the small is blocked with a cap (16)!
The other small goes to a T, then one (24) to nipple on carb, the other (25) to manifold.
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Bob Arganbright
Member
Username: ba_50
Post Number: 27
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 07:18 am: |
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Thanks, this does help, although the diagram doesn't show any fuel supply to the carburetor. Is there a smaller nipple on top of the one closest to the top of the carb? Mine looks like something might have been broken off. I had to insert the smaller hose into a larger one to cover the entire nipple.
The tube at the bottom of the tee goes to a manifold and so does #25 while the 24 goes to the nipple on the carb.
I'm wondering why there are two manifold connections on this one. |
tony mercieca
Member
Username: tonym
Post Number: 17
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 03:59 am: |
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looking at the diagram my primer solenoid is different to yours. Each of my carbies has a little brass tube on the side about 3mm in dia.right where they bolt on to the manifold and the small pipes go on these the larger hose goes to the vro pump but yours appears to be different |
Morten Ringvold
Senior Member
Username: haffiman37
Post Number: 4338
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 04:09 am: |
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Tony:
You have a totally different engine! |
Bob Arganbright
Member
Username: ba_50
Post Number: 28
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 06:37 am: |
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Morton,
I got everything put back together and it runs, except it quits when the float bowl is empty. I didn't have to use the primer to start it but by not being able to attach the vacuum tube to the top of the carb prevented it from starting.
The fuel pump was kicking out fuel so it is a mystery why the bowl wasn't filling up unless it's not enough voulme and needs a diaphragm. This is the first carb I've seen with a fill tube on the bottom. |
Dick Nettleton
Member
Username: rodmaker2
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 10:27 pm: |
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Thanks Phil Kicksee,
Replaced powerpack....all good. I figure I flooded it real bad by letting it idle cold then I fried the power pack while checking for spark the old fashioned way.
Dick |
