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N.G.K vs CHAMPION

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Debbie Glyptis
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Username: bream_master

Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

GDAY TO ALL,I have a johnson 35hp {model 35el78r}my question to the pros is,should i b using NGK's or stick to original QL77JC4,im currently using NGK [N7HS-10]Friends and what not, are saying to stick with NGK others tell me use champion,ANY HELP would b great cheers.
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Morten Ringvold
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Username: haffiman37

Post Number: 3874
Registered: 04-2006


Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

As long as You do not install anything with 'R' from NGK, You may use what is available. I would however gapped them from 1.00m to 0,8mm.
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nicknack2
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Username: nicknack2

Post Number: 211
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Morten, why is an R rated plug not recommended???
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Morten Ringvold
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Post Number: 3876
Registered: 04-2006


Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

The plug wires and coils are not designed to hold the Voltage built up in a 'R' (Resistor) plug. As a result You may get sparks jumping where You do not want them to jump, like into the coil primary (from Power-Pack), alarm (From temp) etc. It is an official a warning on VRO engines, as it may ruin/trigger false alarms.
If You feel for it, install one and then touch the plug wire.
After that You may have two things to do:
1: Call Your dentist and have all fillings reinstalled as they may have jumped out.
2: Call Your dealer and order a new power-pack!
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nicknack2
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Post Number: 213
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

hahaha, I was just curios, there are many myths out there where people states "just run an R plug to get a hotter spark and your smoke at idle will go away"...
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Debbie Glyptis
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

still the question remains to b aswered,which plug has better overall performance NGK or CHAMPION..... CHEERS
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Morten Ringvold
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Post Number: 3878
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Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Champion is the 'designed' plug for the engine. You may however even in OMC own material find NGK plugs, but mainly intended for markets where Champion are difficult to get.
To my experience: Champion L77JC4 or QL77JC4. Gapped at 0,8mm or .030"
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Debbie Glyptis
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Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 04:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks for all the advice WELL DONE.....cheers
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VicS
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Username: vics

Post Number: 559
Registered: 05-2008


Posted on Friday, July 03, 2009 - 05:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Yes QL77JC4 is the correct plug although originally supplied with surface gapped L78V plugs I believe

The Q denotes inductive suppression. Resistive suppression is not suitable for CDI ignition systems

(L77JC4 could be used if a non suppressed plug is adequate)

The equivalent NGK plugs are BZ7HS-10. ( B7HS-10 are non suppressed.)

Technical article about plugs for CDI systems here http://members.iinet.net.au/~pauldawson/iame26-spark-plugs.PDF

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