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1978 175hp Johnson

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craig james bonner
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Username: craig7

Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

The motor will not start when sitting for a couple of days. I can spray gas in the carburators to get it started and after it starts I can go down the lake a little way and stop and fish,then when I get ready to go it barely turn the key and cranks right up.The motor runs good after you get it going.I thought it wasnt getting gas somehow.anyone one have any ideas, would greatly appreiciate it.will not fire at all until i spray gas in the carburaters.
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Joe Reeves
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Username: joereeves

Post Number: 5992
Registered: 02-2001


Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Remove the carburetor face plate so that you can check to see that the choke butterfly is operational when you engage the choke. Is it?

It should slam completely shut when you either toggle the choke switch or push the key in to engage it, whichever system you might have.
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craig james bonner
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Username: craig7

Post Number: 4
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

yes the choke is working fine
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Joe Reeves
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Username: joereeves

Post Number: 5995
Registered: 02-2001


Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

What is your cold engine staring procedure?
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craig james bonner
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Username: craig7

Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i tilt the motor all the way down and pull the gas all the way up and choke it.when this all started i was going down the lake and everything just quit.i got stopped and tried to crank it and it cranked right up,but wwhen i tried to take off it cut out but finally got going.it done this a few times.then i changed all the plugs and put seafoamand high test gas to try to clean it out.so after that,i spray gas in the carburaters to start it, and everything runs fine but i think it used to run about 5 to 10 mph faster. its weird i know but i appreiciate the help.
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Joe Reeves
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Username: joereeves

Post Number: 6001
Registered: 02-2001


Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Proper starting procedure:

Have engine in vertical running position.

Pump fuel primer bulb up hard.

Raise warm up lever as needed to advance the timer base/throttle slightly. For the first time, take the hood off to see when that timer base moves (a reference sighting).

Crank engine and have electric choke/primer solenoid engaged at the same time. When engine starts, release key and choke.

Is this your starting procedure?
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craig james bonner
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Username: craig7

Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

yes basically, i have been starting the motor for five years without a problem
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Joe Reeves
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Username: joereeves

Post Number: 6002
Registered: 02-2001


Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

If what I listed is your exact starting procedure, and fuel is getting to the carburetors and the choke operates as it should..... and the engine starts and runs when you spray a fuel mixture into the carburetor throats BUT will not start otherwise (when cold), then I would strongly suspect that the carburetors are somewhat fouled, clogged, gummed.

My suggestion is that you remove, clean thoroughly, and rebuild the carburetors using complete carburetor kits.
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craig james bonner
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Username: craig7

Post Number: 7
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

thank you i was hoping it would be something a little more simpler.how hard is it to get in a carb and rebuild it. 1 to 10.i have alittle bit of mech. skills but never worked on carbs. do you have the rebuild kits at your ebay store. how much?
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Joe Reeves
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Post Number: 6005
Registered: 02-2001


Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I do not have the kits. However they would most likely be available on this website.
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jwbmarine
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Username: jwbmarine

Post Number: 1489
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

kits are easily avail on here.......sierra......
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bg parsons
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Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a 1978 johnson 85 hp.
my engine would not start at first then after that it would start every time. I replace the power pack at cost of 125.00 That solved the problem. moisture was entering the sealed power pack and then evaporating after fist start
That solved problem. I have an entry under 1978 johnson dated 5-15 see if you have any ideas.
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craig james bonner
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Posted on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

bg, did you get it to crank before you replaced the power pack,by spraying gas in the carburater?

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