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BF8AM - Still water in the oil

chickenchub

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I have a 1997 BF8AM that seized last year due to water in the oil. Connection rod seized. Rebuilt motor over the winter with all new gaskets. Had 3 trips out and changed the oil. Water in the oil still. This is a fresh water motor. Any ideas?
 
A couple of things come to mind that these engines are known for. The oil filler warps and can allow water to enter the crankcase. See item 15 in the link below. It cannot be simply resealed by replacing the gasket but must be replaced with a new filler AND gasket (item 16 in link).
This requires that the powerhead be removed to do the swap so anytime major engine work is done the filler neck should be replaced as a precaution. It's one of the few weaknesses of these stout little twins.

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/outboard-by-hp-serial-range/8hp/bf8am-la-1997/oil-pump


Take a look at item 2 in the link below. That is the cylinder block to oil case (sump) gasket. There is a small oring "nestled" within that gasket. You can make out where it is placed in the depiction by noting that there are 8 small bolt holes in the gasket and the one slightly larger hole in the upper corner is the cutout for the oring. The passage that oring seals is where water coming from the pump, up through the water delivery tube, enters the engine block under force. If that oring doesn't seal, water will enter the oil sump. I'm guessing that, if you replaced the sump gasket that you probably replaced that oring???


https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/outboard-by-hp-serial-range/8hp/bf8am-la-1997/cylinder

The sad news is that, as these engines age, parts support lessens a little every year. They didn't even bother to post a depiction of the oil case for your model. But, I can provide a link that will have a blow up of the oil case from another model since they are all built to the same "platform". The part number for that small oring will be with the oil case. Let me know if you need the link.

Other than those areas it's possible that the block or the cylinder head could have a crack that you didn't detect when you had it apart. Hopefully that's not the case.

I'm sure there are other possibilities that I'm unaware of but we don't know what we don't know.

Good luck.
 
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Actually, I was mistaken (gee, THAT never happened before!)

Here is the link to the oil case for your model. See item 30. That is the "nestled" oring. Why they chose to put it in this diagram and not with the gasket I will never know.

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/outboard-by-hp-serial-range/8hp/bf8am-sa-1997/engine-cover-2

The 8A was a sort of "add on" to the model line back then and that's why there's really no shop manual for them. Just an addendum to the B75/B100 manual. The 8A, 7.5 and 10hp models all share many of the same parts. As an example, below is a link to the 7.5 oil case and oring:

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda...-range/7-5hp/bf75e-la-pre-1997/engine-cover-1

Item 34 is the same oring. Note the dimensions.

And here's a link to a 10hp oil case:

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda...-range/10hp/bf100f-sa-pre-1997/engine-cover-1

Item 34 again, same dimensions even if the part numbers are slightly different.

I hope I haven't confused you. Sometimes too much info just muddies things up.

Good luck.
 
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