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  1. #91
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    Default Re: Question about emptying carb during periods of non use

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    Quote Originally Posted by swc65 View Post
    ............... I know my current fuel pump wiring is not to regulation but the thing I like about it is that I turn the key in for a few moments then bump the starter and engine fires right up.
    Yes, that is a nice feature, but as you now know it is not legal.
    The momentary switch (if you add that) will work just as well.



    I went through my entire ignition system today and found some issues that I think are attributable to me engine miss that I posted on separately. If I have not worn out my welcome, I’d appreciate any additional insight in that thread.
    You have not worn out your welcome. It's your thread!

    FYI in one of the posts you mentioned a some drawbacks on trickle chargers.
    Yes, a trickle charger does not cut back on the charge rate as one should. When left on for a lengthy duration, they can over charge and damage a wet cell battery.

    I was using the term because I’d heard it before and thought any slow charger was a trickle. Thanks to your comments I looked again at my current charger and it is a ”smart” battery maintainer. So I think I’m good.
    A battery maintenance charger will work for keeping one in storage, but may not be sufficient for bringing a low house battery up to par.
    For an On-Board house bank charger, you will want a Marine charger with Smart Charge Technology and at least a 20 amp rating.


    I know everyone has different perspectives ..............
    My grandfather once told me; "there are several ways to skin the cat, but the furrier dealer will tell you that one cat skinner will bring him a better pelt."

    I’m pretty sure you guys have seen just about anything that I’ll run across.
    I began working as a mechanic in the late 60s. I operated my own Volvo Penta repair business for 24 years.
    So yes, I've seen my share of strange, unsafe, weird, unorthodox and dangerous things being done to a boat.
    Rick ... aka Ricardo..... AQ series Volvo Penta repair
    Portland, Oregon
    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP drives

    "Intellectual growth should commence at birth and cease only at death." Albert Einstein

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    Default Re: Question about emptying carb during periods of non use

    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoMarine View Post
    Let's see if this is in a higher resolution.


    Attachment 23395


    Dang... it's no better!
    Received the new marine starter today and reviewing this thread. Intend install with Relay and LOP switch on weekend. Also planning on the momentary at helm for start bypass circuit to "prime the carb" and save my new starter motor.

    New starter does not have the solenoid terminals marked. I've got a call into the manufacturer. Based on comments this thread I'm assuming one of the small terminals on new starter is "S" and one is "I" or "R".

    What do I do with the small yellow/Red wire that was terminated on the old starter. The OMC manual shows it going from large diameter red cable to a small terminal. As you can see from the pic, I have two small terminals on new starter.

    Old Starter



    New Starter



    Will I connect one of the small terminals to wire to the LOP per your diagram or can I use the "S" terminal from the slave solenoid on engine block?

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    Default Re: Question about emptying carb during periods of non use

    So I have clarity on the terminal designation from the mfg of new starter posted below. I sent them a same pictures of my OEM diagrams and old automotive starter wiring which was per the OMC manual.




    1. My questions to their tech support was should I wire the new starter the same way as the old starter?
    2. How the the relay terminal be used.


    Their reply:

    "The way the jumper is connected would trigger the IGN terminal to engage the solenoid and extend the gear out when voltage is applied to the BAT post, hot wired you might say.

    Unfortunately we are unable to advise on the slave relay's function or the choke (19)."

    I will plan to wire the same as the starter I removed since it is per manual. Still curious about the Relay terminal on the starter motor solenoid.
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    1992 Galaxie 20.5', OMC King Cobra 5.74LE,

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    Default Re: Question about emptying carb during periods of non use

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    Quote Originally Posted by swc65 View Post
    So I have clarity on the terminal designation from the mfg of new starter posted below. I sent them a same pictures of my OEM diagrams and old automotive starter wiring which was per the OMC manual.

    Correction:

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    1. My questions to their tech support was should I wire the new starter the same way as the old starter? That depends on whether the old starter motor was wired correctly or not.
    2. How the the relay terminal be used. The R terminal and circuit can be used to trigger the fuel pump's relay during cranking..... therefor giving you a "start-by-pass" system.


    Their reply:

    "The way the jumper is connected would trigger the IGN terminal to engage the solenoid and extend the gear out when voltage is applied to the BAT post, hot wired you might say.
    Who are you speaking with that would be this un-informed?
    The Ignition terminal invloves the ignition.... NOT the starter motor solenoid.

    Unfortunately we are unable to advise on the slave relay's function or the choke (19)."
    Good..... I would not want any further advice from them.

    I will plan to wire the same as the starter I removed since it is per manual.
    Still curious about the Relay terminal on the starter motor solenoid.
    See above.
    Rick ... aka Ricardo..... AQ series Volvo Penta repair
    Portland, Oregon
    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP drives

    "Intellectual growth should commence at birth and cease only at death." Albert Einstein

    Please... no PMs! Post your questions on the forum.

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