I have a Honda BF175 engine 2008, which is the same blockas the 200hp and 225hp sisters, V6 engine.
The engine was bought with the boat when it only had 20h of salt wateroperation, I am not sure of the previous level of maintenance by since I hadthe boat all the schedule maintenance and more has been carried out. The boatis used every summer for around 30h each time. Now the engine has accumulated80h and had every year changed, the engine and gearbox oil, oil filters andfuel filter.
Up to now it run like a dream, this year I noticed a weakpee stream form the tail-tale pipe but I did not overly concern me as I thoughtcould be from the thermostats opening and closing. By the way the thermostatswere changed at 20h, the old ones were ok with a bit of salt debris around thembut nothing alarming.
Anyway after a long run on the plain holding the enginearound 3000-3500rpm I noticed that the pee stream was getting very week andslowed down to idle, after a few second the buzzer came on, and immediately thoughtI had caught something and was not sucking water properly, but the lower legwas clear. I started again the engine and the buzzer came one and the red lighton the console, I did not notice at the time if the buzzer was intermitted or continuous.
Anyway to cut a long story short, I pulled the boat out,removed the lower leg inspected the impeller (condition OK), change the impeller,changed the thermostats, blowed with air the cooling system from the top(thermostats) and from the bottom, with nothing substantial coming out. Run theengine in a barrel with Salt Terminator solution. The engine run fine for 20minand the pee stream was very strong.
Boat back in the water, did a test run, everything wasfine until I pulled in the harbor and at idle the buzzer came on again(intermitted) and the pee stream was reduced again. I plugged the engine on aHonda diagnostic tool to identify any register faults and it showed a problem withthe O2 sensor. Played around with trying to test the O2 sensor, used a blowtorch and measure voltage, it was oscillating between 0.1 Volts to 0.9 Volts,so I assumed it was OK. Run the engine again in the harbor at idle and now theengine was overheating, or at least that I was reading from the heat sensor,97C and the engine was cutting off.
Took the boat again out from the water, took the bottomleg off, checked the impeller (again OK), run the engine without thermostats,again the engine overheated very quickly and shut down. The pee stream was alsovery week. Some engineers suggested that the water cooling system was cloggedup with salt and suggested various remedies, one of them was to run a vinegarsolution through to clean the system. This was done but no real change, the continuousbuzzer still came on.
Use the flushing tube and flushed the engine for ½ hour,without engine running, the pee stream was ok although not very strong.
I am totally perplexed to what is happening, I haven’tchecked the engine with an infrared thermometer but touching the manifold itwas very hot, so I tend to believe the overheat alarm.
So can anyone suggest what could be wrong, as I havegiven up right now. The last thing I want to do is dismantle the engine toclear a possible clogged up cooling system, which I tend to believe is not thecase for at least an 80 hour motor.
Is the O2 sensor playing up a result of overheating? Do Ihave both problems ie Overheating and an O2 sensor issue?
Any help or previous experience is appreciated.
The engine was bought with the boat when it only had 20h of salt wateroperation, I am not sure of the previous level of maintenance by since I hadthe boat all the schedule maintenance and more has been carried out. The boatis used every summer for around 30h each time. Now the engine has accumulated80h and had every year changed, the engine and gearbox oil, oil filters andfuel filter.
Up to now it run like a dream, this year I noticed a weakpee stream form the tail-tale pipe but I did not overly concern me as I thoughtcould be from the thermostats opening and closing. By the way the thermostatswere changed at 20h, the old ones were ok with a bit of salt debris around thembut nothing alarming.
Anyway after a long run on the plain holding the enginearound 3000-3500rpm I noticed that the pee stream was getting very week andslowed down to idle, after a few second the buzzer came on, and immediately thoughtI had caught something and was not sucking water properly, but the lower legwas clear. I started again the engine and the buzzer came one and the red lighton the console, I did not notice at the time if the buzzer was intermitted or continuous.
Anyway to cut a long story short, I pulled the boat out,removed the lower leg inspected the impeller (condition OK), change the impeller,changed the thermostats, blowed with air the cooling system from the top(thermostats) and from the bottom, with nothing substantial coming out. Run theengine in a barrel with Salt Terminator solution. The engine run fine for 20minand the pee stream was very strong.
Boat back in the water, did a test run, everything wasfine until I pulled in the harbor and at idle the buzzer came on again(intermitted) and the pee stream was reduced again. I plugged the engine on aHonda diagnostic tool to identify any register faults and it showed a problem withthe O2 sensor. Played around with trying to test the O2 sensor, used a blowtorch and measure voltage, it was oscillating between 0.1 Volts to 0.9 Volts,so I assumed it was OK. Run the engine again in the harbor at idle and now theengine was overheating, or at least that I was reading from the heat sensor,97C and the engine was cutting off.
Took the boat again out from the water, took the bottomleg off, checked the impeller (again OK), run the engine without thermostats,again the engine overheated very quickly and shut down. The pee stream was alsovery week. Some engineers suggested that the water cooling system was cloggedup with salt and suggested various remedies, one of them was to run a vinegarsolution through to clean the system. This was done but no real change, the continuousbuzzer still came on.
Use the flushing tube and flushed the engine for ½ hour,without engine running, the pee stream was ok although not very strong.
I am totally perplexed to what is happening, I haven’tchecked the engine with an infrared thermometer but touching the manifold itwas very hot, so I tend to believe the overheat alarm.
So can anyone suggest what could be wrong, as I havegiven up right now. The last thing I want to do is dismantle the engine toclear a possible clogged up cooling system, which I tend to believe is not thecase for at least an 80 hour motor.
Is the O2 sensor playing up a result of overheating? Do Ihave both problems ie Overheating and an O2 sensor issue?
Any help or previous experience is appreciated.