New member here, I spent the last few days searching the forums looking through other peoples issues with the 5.0gxi-f and seems as tho I am not alone. Also due to the weather i am stuck doing research instead of starting diagnosis of the issue(s) i am having. This is why i decided writing this thread might give me a good game plan as soon as its warm enough to flush out the antifreeze and get the boat ready for another tough season.
The issue:
Last season the boat had a very difficult time getting out of the water, sometimes even not getting up on a plane at all and i noticed the following.
Starboard engine has a very noticeable whining noise at all speeds almost sounding like a power steering pump whine/groan- maybe related, maybe not.
when the boat finally gets out of the water i usually cruise with both engines from 3000-3200 rpms depending on the wind/tide which usually gets me going abbout 19-22knots. almost all of last summer i noticed, when cruising, the starboard engine will lose RPMS and drop to about 2800 and you can really feel it and see it on the S.O.G/. Usually throttleing up will bring the speed back up and eventually the engine will hold its speed at the desired 3000-3200. Wide open throttle everythingt seems ok boat has no problem reaching 30knots. when slowing down to enter the harbor/channel usually the starbord engine will surge approx 200-400 rpms when around 1000rpms accompanied by a very loud "sucking" noise from that engine (its like it sucking lots of air thru the throttle plate or massive intake leak). Every once and a while the engine will stall when docking or slow speed maneuvers, in the beginning of the season it would usually restart no problem but as the season went on sometimes the engine will crank but not restart- once it cools off it will start back up but need to neutral throttle it. cold start engine fires right up but will have the loud "sucking" noise as i said before. When i winterized it this past fall i had a difficult time getting engine started (cold) and when it did finally start it ran very rough for about 5 minutes until missfires cleared out and then ran fine until i fogged it and put her to sleep.
These engines have always been maintained by the marina mechanics up until now. Besides regular maintanence the following repairs have been done leading up to this condition.
Coils/ignition modules replaced multiple times due to water leaking thru hatch onto coils.- water leak has been rectified
complete engine wiring harness- once again from the leaking hatch
electronic fuel pump assembly (2-3 seasons ago)
fuel injectors removed and cleaned professionally
new exhaust manifolds, risers, bellows ect for both engines this time last year.
port engine does not show any of these symptoms and seems to be running perfectly (for now)
also has alot of new parts similar to the starboard but the engine harness was not needed.
please note each engine has separate fuel tanks (aluminum) but i have ran the stbd engine on both tanks with no change
My plan, after reading some threads on this forum is to start off with new plugs, wires, cap/rotor- these are definitely due. Hopefully that is all thats going on but i feel there is other issues present- im thinking fuel system. My next steps will include
Fuel supply to the pump assembly
fuel pressures at pump and rail
check for vacuum leaks
compression test (only if necessary- tight squeeze between the 2 engines)
If any of you members have any experience dealing with any of the said symptoms and have any helpful tips/known problems with this setup i would greatly appreciate it.
In regards to checking DTC's from the engine control unit is there any scanner available that i could buy to check the DTC's and read live data? and information on this would be very helpful.
Thanks for adding me to your community and thank you for taking some time to read my thread and hopefully aid in getting this boat ready for another tough summmer.
The issue:
Last season the boat had a very difficult time getting out of the water, sometimes even not getting up on a plane at all and i noticed the following.
Starboard engine has a very noticeable whining noise at all speeds almost sounding like a power steering pump whine/groan- maybe related, maybe not.
when the boat finally gets out of the water i usually cruise with both engines from 3000-3200 rpms depending on the wind/tide which usually gets me going abbout 19-22knots. almost all of last summer i noticed, when cruising, the starboard engine will lose RPMS and drop to about 2800 and you can really feel it and see it on the S.O.G/. Usually throttleing up will bring the speed back up and eventually the engine will hold its speed at the desired 3000-3200. Wide open throttle everythingt seems ok boat has no problem reaching 30knots. when slowing down to enter the harbor/channel usually the starbord engine will surge approx 200-400 rpms when around 1000rpms accompanied by a very loud "sucking" noise from that engine (its like it sucking lots of air thru the throttle plate or massive intake leak). Every once and a while the engine will stall when docking or slow speed maneuvers, in the beginning of the season it would usually restart no problem but as the season went on sometimes the engine will crank but not restart- once it cools off it will start back up but need to neutral throttle it. cold start engine fires right up but will have the loud "sucking" noise as i said before. When i winterized it this past fall i had a difficult time getting engine started (cold) and when it did finally start it ran very rough for about 5 minutes until missfires cleared out and then ran fine until i fogged it and put her to sleep.
These engines have always been maintained by the marina mechanics up until now. Besides regular maintanence the following repairs have been done leading up to this condition.
Coils/ignition modules replaced multiple times due to water leaking thru hatch onto coils.- water leak has been rectified
complete engine wiring harness- once again from the leaking hatch
electronic fuel pump assembly (2-3 seasons ago)
fuel injectors removed and cleaned professionally
new exhaust manifolds, risers, bellows ect for both engines this time last year.
port engine does not show any of these symptoms and seems to be running perfectly (for now)
also has alot of new parts similar to the starboard but the engine harness was not needed.
please note each engine has separate fuel tanks (aluminum) but i have ran the stbd engine on both tanks with no change
My plan, after reading some threads on this forum is to start off with new plugs, wires, cap/rotor- these are definitely due. Hopefully that is all thats going on but i feel there is other issues present- im thinking fuel system. My next steps will include
Fuel supply to the pump assembly
fuel pressures at pump and rail
check for vacuum leaks
compression test (only if necessary- tight squeeze between the 2 engines)
If any of you members have any experience dealing with any of the said symptoms and have any helpful tips/known problems with this setup i would greatly appreciate it.
In regards to checking DTC's from the engine control unit is there any scanner available that i could buy to check the DTC's and read live data? and information on this would be very helpful.
Thanks for adding me to your community and thank you for taking some time to read my thread and hopefully aid in getting this boat ready for another tough summmer.