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1974 sea star shift problem

pontiacbrad

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I have a 1974 sea star with evinrude 100 with electric shift when i got the boat it would'nt shift into neutral or reverse so i got a used L/U and it worked fine until i was on the lake and hit big wave and my elbow came down and hit both neutral and reverse at the same time and now it makes a strange whirring noise at idle and reverse works but not like it did what
did i do and how do i fix it ? buy another L/U ?
 
Not sure of the year but model # is 100193 but the L/U i bought has 1970 v4 written on it the orginal one i took off i'm sure has bad solenoids and thats why it
would'nt shift so now i'm wondering if i can just makw one good unit out of the two? before i hit both buttons that day when youwould shift between forward and reverse you could feel it kick into gear now it only does that in forward although reverse does still work , it does'nt kick into gear like it did and it does'nt work as good as it did. i drained the fluid after it happened and there was no metal in it.
 
You say in post three (3) that the model number is 100193 --- 1971 100hp Evinrude.

You say in post four (4) that the model number is 100293R --- 1972 100hp Evinrude.

However, no matter as both engines are basically the same... top to bottom. The shift setup is called "Hydro Electric Shift", meaning that there are two electric solenoids that when engaged properly change passageways in a oil pump that creates varying pressure on a spring loaded clutch shifter dog. A complete explanation follows below.

Pushing/engaging both shift buttons at the same time... and actually causing those buttons to throw voltage to both electrical solenoids would be impossible in my opinion... however, even if that were possible, what would happen when both solenoids are engaged is that the lower unit would shift into reverse gear.

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(Hydro Electric Shift System Explained)
(J. Reeves)

NOTE 1 -The ohm reading of the individual shift solenoids should be between 5 to 6 ohms. The ohm meter should be set to low ohms. The shift wires leading to the solenoids must be disconnected when being tested.

NOTE 2 - The solenoid plunger measurement must be made with the solenoid placed within the lower unit. The measurement must be approximately 1/64" beneath the top surface of the solenoid... NOT above the solenoid surface nor any lower than 1/64" of the solenoid surface. This factory measurement is critical and will not ever change UNLESS someone has tinkered with it.

The shifting setup of the lower unit is what's called a "Hydro Electric Shift", which is quite complex consisting of voltage being applied to solenoids in the lower unit which in turn change oil passages via a oil pump that supplies various pressure on a spring loaded shifter dog. The wires leading to the lower unit (at the powerhead) are "Green" and "Blue". The engine must be running or cranking over in order to shift out of forward gear.

You CAN NOT use HI VIS lube in that lower unit. You MUST USE what OMC calls "Premium Blend" lube, commonly called "Type C". (A thinner lube)

Note: The engine must be running OR have the driveshaft turning by some other means in order for the engine to shift.

In neutral, you need 12v to the "Green" wire.

In reverse, you need 12v to both wires, the "Green" one and the "Blue" one.

In forward, there should be no voltage to either wire. (The spring loaded shifter dog forces the unit into forward gear)

To check the lower unit for proper shifting to make sure you have no trouble there, remove the spark plugs to avoid problems and to allow a higher cranking speed.

This next step eliminates the actual shift switch in case problems may exist there.... Disconnect the blue & green wires at the knife connectors (the rubber insulated boots) leading to the lower unit at the powerhead, then using jumpers, take voltage direct from the starter solenoid to apply voltage to the "Green" wire for neutral, then both wires 'Green" & "Blue" for reverse (Remember the engine must be cranking over in order to shift).

With no voltage applied, the unit should be in forward. No need for a ground jumper... the lower unit's already grounded. You may crank the engine with the key switch or by energizing the starter solenoid with a jumper wire.
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Well basically that is what it did is shift into reverse at a high rpm now at idle it sounds like a box fan with a piece of paper stuck in it , and like i said earlier when you would shift into reverse you could feel it engage now you don't
 
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