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  1. #1

    Default Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    I have a 1971 penn yan inboard with a 318 Chrysler engine, and I need a starter for it. My problem is that I don't know the year of the engine.The starter does not have a cylinoid on it.It's a two bolt mount, 12 1/2 inches long, with one elec. post on it. I'm pretty sure the engine is in the 1970's region, and would like to know if the starters are basically the same for that period.And if anybody out there would have one? I would sure appreciate some input.

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    If no solenoid, it's an old Bendix drive motor.
    Treat your engine to a HTGR/PMGR motor, and enjoy better starts with less Amp draw!


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    Rick ... aka Ricardo
    Portland, Oregon
    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP's

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Rick,

    Where can I get one, and how much are they?

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Chrysler pioneered the automotive gear reduction starter motor!

    Most Marine starter motors that you'll find these days (as OEM equipment), will be high torque gear reduction/permanent magnet gear reduction!
    Whether I/O or I/B!

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    Rick ... aka Ricardo
    Portland, Oregon
    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP's

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    You can get it rebuilt. SHip it to this guy and he'll make it brand new (and for a reasonable price). Dealt with him several times with complete satisfaction.

    Park Manor Sales and Service
    915 Greenleaf St. (near 9th)
    Allentown, PA 18102-1473
    610-770-9488


    Jeff

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Quote Originally Posted by fastjeff View Post
    You can get it rebuilt. SHip it to this guy and he'll make it brand new (and for a reasonable price). Dealt with him several times with complete satisfaction.
    And at the end of the day....... he'll still have an outdated Bendix drive non-reduction starter motor!




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    Rick ... aka Ricardo
    Portland, Oregon
    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP's

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Yeah, but it'll work great, s mine has for 6 years now.

    Jeff

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Unlikely to get OEM quality gear reduction for a Chrysler since there weren't any......

    Jack

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Quote Originally Posted by 300hb View Post
    Unlikely to get OEM quality gear reduction for a Chrysler since there weren't any......
    Jack
    Not so.
    Rick ... aka Ricardo
    Portland, Oregon
    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP's

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    I had mune rebuilt it works fine. Yes a Gear reduction starter would be nice but unnecessary. I also dont know of a sours for a BOLT IN no modification gear reduction starter that works with these chryslers.

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    A non-gear reduction Bendex style starter motor relies on quick/fast torque to kick the Bendex drive pinion gear into the flywheel ring gear.
    Should we encounter a week cranking battery, often the Bendix motors will not engage.
    The Bendix motor engine cranking RPM is limited to the pinion gear/ring gear reduction, and the Armature RPM.

    Conversely, a HTGR/PMGR motor armature spins approximately 3x's faster, and via the reduction, spins the engine crankshaft at a slightly higher rpm!
    This usually results in faster starts, and less battery Amp draw.


    As said earlier, the Chrysler company pioneered the V8 gear reduction starter motor, and did so in the 1950's.


    Your call........ But I'd certainly suggest the HTGR/PMGR motor.




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    Last edited by RicardoMarine; 03-06-2014 at 08:02 AM.
    Rick ... aka Ricardo
    Portland, Oregon
    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP's

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    as stated. I am not aware of a bolt in marine HTGR/PMGR starter for our chrysler inboard applications. I know there is one for the chrysler/volvo I/O applications. If you know of one, I would be happy to see it and maybe even try it.

    will

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Quote Originally Posted by buick430 View Post
    as stated. I am not aware of a bolt in marine HTGR/PMGR starter for our Chrysler inboard applications. I know there is one for the chrysler/volvo I/O applications. If you know of one, I would be happy to see it and maybe even try it.

    will
    Will, I believe that these have been around for years.

    http://m.rakuten.com/product/2347322...ngID=229833535


    In post #15 here, I show a second style forward facing inboard HTGR starter motor
    http://www.marineengine.com/boat-for...nboard-Starter


    The Chrysler Inboard will be using the forward facing style motor...... Correct?
    I.E., the style motor that bolts on from behind the flywheel....... typically to the Borg Warner flywheel cover.

    http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=331003189317






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    Last edited by RicardoMarine; 03-07-2014 at 07:03 AM.
    Rick ... aka Ricardo
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    28' SDN F/B w/ twin Volvo Penta 5.7L DP's

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    It looks like those would bolt on. Have you ever ordered from rakuten?? Ive never heard of or seen that starter before. I honestly think I will just keep my old fashioned bendix starters.

    will

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Quote Originally Posted by daves69 View Post
    Cool....., can't believe they weren't snatched up (Jeff).

    I'm assuming the other is an import

    Jack

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Hi
    i have been using these high speed starters for years. I could not find a good side view but here is a shot that shows it from the front on a 383 I sent to Sweden. These work great. Contact Rare Electrical in Florida, that's where I get them. They have them in both rotations. These will use the original 172 tooth ring gear that was on these old engines. the ring gear is available from Auto Zone, just look up a 1965 Plymouth with a standard trans. they are about $25
    not worth screwing with those old 1958 starters any more.

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    heres the pic
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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    Just my 2 cents worth.... I've had the direct drive starters on my twin LM318's for the last twenty years. Never liked them. I rebuild my own and even after OH they take a lot of juice to crank the motors. I'm going with Rick's advice on this one and converting to HTGR. Found this web site for Chrysler Inboards.

    http://mascostartersandalternators.c...duct_list&c=40

    I'll let you know how they work!

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    take it out and bring it to a good marine shop they will know

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    Default Re: Starter for 318 chrysler engine

    I had mine rebuilt 3 years ago, now it starts at a touch of the key, more than satisfied. It definitely draws less amps than before the rebuild. Do it!

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