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    Default motor wont stay running

    hi. i recently purchased my first boat. its a 14ft aluminum with a 1975 20hp merc 200. the motor ran awesome here at the house. a couple of weeks ago i took it to the lake to try it out and i started having problems. first off, it had trouble starting. then when i got it started, it wouldnt stay running. it only runs for a few seconds after i prime it. so obviously its a fuel issue. i bought a new fuel pump diaphragm for it and that didnt fix it. im thinking something may be plugged in the carburetor maybe? i have a clymers manual and im thinking i may just disassemble it and clean every little orrifice. any other ideas? thank you

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    Default Re: motor wont stay running

    Clean carburetor , likely dirt in it.

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    well, i disassembled the carb and cleaned it. it seems like that may have done the trick. i also cleaned the passage in the engine that lets the crankcase vacuum get to the fuel pump. it runs like a champ now. only problem now is sometimes it doesnt want to spit water from the pee hole. i plan on replacing the impeller anyway since i dont know when it was done last. i think i got a pretty good deal on this boat for $600 with trailer, motor, current registration, fish finder, and all the extras (anchor, oars, etc)
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    Default Re: motor wont stay running

    i think i got a pretty good deal...
    you bet...enjoy but replace the impeller and thermostat if equipped.
    Fix minor things (replace wear items for preventative maintenance.) that cause major problems before they break.

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    Default Re: motor wont stay running

    No need to look for a thermostat , it did not come with one.

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    Default Re: motor wont stay running

    Whoa! Don't got off on a tandem until you read this:

    That motor (and Merc 110s--9.8hp) are notorious for plugged Tell Tales--the dopey angled fitting in the lower cowling plugs up very easily. My usual solution is to blow compressed air back wards as the motor runs (hard to do 'out there'). A wire can be used to poke te hole out, but if you want to eliminate it completely do this:

    Remove the plastic fitting and throw it away, then lengthen the hose and poke it out the bottom of the cowling (with a tie wrap to keep it out there). Problem solved, permanently.

    Jeff

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    Default Re: motor wont stay running

    Old impellers are subject to " sudden failure " and if it does you will destroy a fine motor.----------Replace it if you do not know how long it has been in there !!

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    i replaced the impeller. it has waaay better water flow now

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    Default Re: motor wont stay running

    Good deal. But don't panic if the Tell Tale suddenly stops working; the Tell Tale on those motors regularly plug up and need poking out.

    Jeff

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    Default Re: motor wont stay running

    Was the pump housing in good shape no grooves or pitting on the walls also monitor the gear oil after every time out for water intrusion. Pull the lower plug after a couple days sitting and see how much water comes out. Pull the prop if you can now and grease the splines annually. Allways top the gear oil off before every use a squirt can in the upper hole will do. Have fun

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    ..."Allways top the gear oil off before every"

    Why? You think the thing will lock up if there's a tablespoon of oil missing! They can run 50% empty without a hint of trouble.

    Jeff

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    Hummm what service manual says to run it until it gets half empty of gear oil, if you keep it topped of the upper bearing and seal will last alot longer.
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    ..."Allways top the gear oil off before every"

    Why? You think the thing will lock up if there's a tablespoon of oil missing! They can run 50% empty without a hint of trouble.

    Jeff

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    ..."Hummm what service manual says to run it until it gets half empty of gear oil,.."

    Never said that, but the LU will operate just fine a 50 % oil capacity.

    .."if you keep it topped of the upper bearing and seal will last alot longer."

    I doubt it. At even 500 rpms the oil is flying all over the place in there.

    Jeff

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    Can you give me a link anywhere that says it is ok to run it half empty. My merc manual says to fill it from the bottom and then with a oil can top it off until it take no more oil. Most people will not check the oil every time out but every time you pull the upper plug top it off is all I am saying.

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    There's a misconception on oil levels caused by a lack of a dip stick to check oil levels. LAcking said device, the only safe way to determine the level is to fill it to the top. That way it's got plenty of oil, agreed?

    In the industrial world of gearboxes, there is a sight gage to determine proper oil levels, which is close to 50 %. This level reduces the tendency of the oil to aerate, which lowers its viscosity (and lubricating ability). Note the car engines are never run full of oil for the same reason. Also note the warning usually placed on the dip stick not to "overfill".

    Jeff

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    the only safe way to determine the level is to fill it to the top. That way it's got plenty of oil, agreed?
    All this other stuff is necessary how.

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    Always make sure outboard gearbox is full to the top, running them any other way risks disaster.---------The upper thrust bearing will fail , with motor coming to a " dynamic halt "

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    ..."The upper thrust bearing will fail "

    Not really.

    Jeff

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