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    Default Gray Marine Fireball V8 CF 185

    Does anyone know for certain what kind of engine the Gray marine Fireball V8 CF 185 engine is? AMC 327?

    The 185 version of the AMC 327 doesn't seem to show up in any searches I've done.

    It is in a 1963 Century Sabre.

    Thanks.

    Bill.

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    Default Re: Gray Marine Fireball V8 CF 185

    William, are you sure you are searching for the right engine?
    The graymarine fireball models were V8-238, V8-225, V8-188, V8-170 and the V8-135,
    I have all the factory svc manuals and specs, part numbers et al for these engines.
    The 238, 225 and 188 were built on the AMC 327 cu in block
    The 170 and 135 were 250 cu in.
    They also made what the called the compact V8-178 (dual carb) and the compact V8-138 (single carb) both 250 cu in.
    I got the manuals from this site a few years back, don't know if they still handle them

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    Default Re: Gray Marine Fireball V8 CF 185

    Quote Originally Posted by cal View Post
    William, are you sure you are searching for the right engine?
    The graymarine fireball models were V8-238, V8-225, V8-188, V8-170 and the V8-135,
    I have all the factory svc manuals and specs, part numbers et al for these engines.
    The 238, 225 and 188 were built on the AMC 327 cu in block
    The 170 and 135 were 250 cu in.
    They also made what the called the compact V8-178 (dual carb) and the compact V8-138 (single carb) both 250 cu in.
    I got the manuals from this site a few years back, don't know if they still handle them

    So it turns out the Fireball CF 185 was made one year in 1966 using the 250 block. http://centuryboatclub.com/centuryengines1942-1968.htm

    But, since I don't have the original manifold with the Carter YH's, does anyone know what a suitable replacement would be?

    There is a conventional intake on it for a 2 or four barrel carb, but I'm not sure what make and cfm is appropriate.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks,

    Bill.

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    Default Re: Gray Marine Fireball V8 CF 185

    Bill,
    Do you have enough engine cover clearance to install a downdraft carb and flame arrestor on the engine? The original intakes were used to keep the engine installed height to a minimum. What intake do you have on the engine, 2bbl or 4bbl? Do you know what the WOT is? That engine would probably need between 350 and 400 cfm.

    This is a twinYH / intake set up on a 62 Buehler I am thinking of parting out...


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    Default Re: Gray Marine Fireball V8 CF 185

    Thanks,

    I actually just purchased a Carter AFB 3354S, which is a marine carb that was used on some set ups. I really wanted to get the original type mainifold with twin YH's but couldn't find them. If you part that out, I am interested.

    I would also like an exhaust manifold elbow that is rusted and broken on mine.

    Thanks,

    Bill.

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