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How to ID my OMC...

CaptainAng

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Hey guys~

Could someone please tell me where to look to find out what HP my 1969 OMC stringer drive is? I need to order a service/repair manual.

Thanks,
Angela
 
Well, I've already checked there....
It seems as though someone has removed all the plates from the outdrive...???

Thanks for the suggestion, dimitri :)

Any other thoughts out there....??
 
the outdrive is the "OMC Sterndrive"

they didn't call it anything else until 1978- then they started 400, 800 etc...
 
post a picture of the motor, then one of the drive from the side. Someone painted it and you don't see the plate is what happened i bet.

Raise the drive halfway run your hand over the area you should feel the rivets the plate should be 2" by 3 or 3 and 1/2 "

Slang it's a stringer.
 
Thanks for all the help...I'm good to go! (so far....) Just got my Clymer OMC Stern Drive Service Manual~I'm sure I'll have more questions!

Thanks again and I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend~
 
Wow...
Thanks for the advice, Chief! Uploading Seloc manual as I'm typing...
I'm also going to need a manual for a 318 Chrysler I/O with twin Dana. Are Clymer manuals useless across the board? lol

Many thanks again!
Angela
 
that 318 is a straight inboard with a screw prop. no outdrive on that one.

How many boats you working on ?

You will be the last one i post a link to the free D / L lucky you.
 
The term "400 series" wasn't used by OMC until 1978

there was no reference to that in 1969 or any electric shift manuals or parts books
 
Before 78' it was omc sterndrive, or" stringer ". But never in a manual.

Reason why it was called a " stringer " ? The way the motor and drive are connected to the stringers of the boat. The drive does not mount to the transom.

I still desire a picture of the motor and the drive sideways and straight on from the rear.

Whatta say gonna post one ? We all like pics of the older models.

I have a great link to the history of omc actually a couple, one with a collection of old " Stringer " pictures.
 
30 Years of the OMC Sterndrive
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The OMC stern drive was produced by the Outboard Marine Corporation from 1962 until the end of 1992. Because the 1962 and 1963 models used only an 80 horsepower V4 outboard powerhead, for all practical purposes it could be said that the first modern OMC sterndrive was not made until 1964 when it became available with the 110 horsepower 153 cubic inch inline 4 cylinder Chevy II automotive engine.
While OMC’s sterndrive competitors Mercruiser and Volvo mounted the rear of the engine to the inside of the transom and mounted the front of the drive to the outside of the transom, OMC took a completely different approach. They mounted the engine and sterndrive on the stringers of the boat; the drive was sealed to the transom with a large rubber diaphragm. The OMC stern drive was then referred to as the stringer mount drive or “stringer”.
The Mercruiser and Volvo sterndrive designs utilized U-joints to allow the drive to tilt and turn. The rather unusual approach that OMC took to allow the drive to tilt (for trailering the boat) was with a ball gear arrangement. For this reason, some people have also called the stringer mount drive the “ball gear drive.”
Although the ball gears and the stringer mounting system was a radical departure from the Mercruiser and Volvo, perhaps the most unusual difference between the early sterndrives was the method of shifting the drive from forward to neutral to reverse. While Mercruiser and Volvo used a very traditional, mechanical form of shifting actuated by a shift cable, the early OMC “stringers” used electric magnets to engage the forward and reverse gears. Because the newer model “stringers” utilized the traditional mechanical shifting (similar to the Mercruisers and Volvos) the OMC stringer sterndrives can be divided into two distinct groups; the 1977 and earlier models are called the electric shift OMC stringers and the 1978 to 1985 models are called the mechanical shift OMC stringers.
Another unusual aspect of the OMC stringer is the method used to trim the drive while operating the boat. Utilizing U-joints, the Mercruiser and Volvo drives can be tilted/trimmed separately from the engine. This tilt/trim adjustment is made with hydraulic trim rams. The OMC ball gear system doesn’t allow the drive to be tilted/trimmed separately from the engine. The complete engine and drive assembly must be rocked back and forth within the boat to trim the drive and propeller. The front of the engine is lifted or lowered to change the propellers angle of attack.
By the early 1980’s the writing was on the wall, the technology that OMC chose for the sterndrive was running down an evolutionary dead end. All modern sterndrives would have U-joints, transom mounted engines and drives, mechanical shifting and trim rams
Introduced for the 1986 model year was the Cobra. OMC built an all-new, modern sterndrive factory in Lexington, Tennessee and started producing a traditional style sterndrive. Drawing heavily on the Mercruiser and Volvo sterndrive designs, the new Cobra had a transom mounted drive utilizing U-joints and trim rams. The engine was mounted solidly to the stringers in front and to a transom mounted plate in the rear. To entice the boat manufacturers who had installed only Mercruiser drives in the past, the OMC Cobra was designed to fit in the same size cut-out hole (in the transom) as the Mercruiser. This way a boat could be manufactured, the transom hole cut, and either the Mercruiser or the Cobra sterndrive package could be installed per market demand. Rigging the boat with a Cobra sterndrive was as easy as rigging with a Mercruiser sterndrive. Even the steering cables could be interchanged!
All 1978 – 1985 stringers and 1986- 1992 Cobra drives can be divided up into two categories. During the early production of the OMC stringers the 4-cylinder drives were known as the 400 series and the V6/V8 drives were known as the 800 series. The differences between the 400 and 800 drives are in the lower gearcase. The 4-cylinder gearcase and gears are smaller in diameter than the V6/V8 gearcase and gears.
The only pieces to survive the OMC redesign from the stringer to the Cobra were the 400 and 800 lower gearcases. Other than minor differences in the shift mechanism, the stringer lower gearcases and the Cobra lower gearcases are virtually identical with many interchangeable parts, including the housing itself!
Both the 400 and 800 series gearcases evolved from the Johnson/Evinrude outboard line (a division of OMC). The 4-cylinder/400 gearcase is similar to the V4 outboard gearcase and the V6/V8/800 series gearcase is similar to the V6 outboard gearcase. Other than the addition of a water pump, different drive shaft and shift mechanisms the stringer and Cobra gearcases will interchange with some of the outboard gearcases!
Although later models discontinued the use of the phrase 400 or 800 series, the terminology is still used by some OMC mechanics to identify a small gearcase from a large gearcase on both the stringer and Cobra sterndrives.
 
So what's the point of this nice piece of OMC nostalgic history...all you've done is echo what hystat and the Chief said that "OMC did not use the 400 - 800 until 1978", certainly wasn't used back in 1969.
 
be careful on the pre 70s omc out drives they wasnt built as good as the 70s to 77 metal fatigue gears not casted the best if your going to put alot of money out on this drive atleast update to a 70 or better
 
and if i remember right you can take the outdrive off of 70 omc at the tilt and it will fit a 68 69 but be careful on the horse power rateing dont put a small outdrive behind a v8d things tende to expand at high rpm
 
me and a friend updated his webbcraft by removeing outdrive from motor back then sandwiched the transon with 1/4 inch aluminum and tapped holes then recut for a cobra out drive it turned out great but he had about 3 grand in parts and 7 yrs later found that the cobra was getting hard to find parts for thats why im just as happy with my little silverline 14 ft boat and a 1956 evenrude can spend time fishing instead of greasy hands lol
 
Thanks to all on the great info...
I found a '69 Chevy OMC 4cyl stringer drive on Craig's List about an hour away, so I sent 'the boys' to take a look and we found a winner. Got the engine and the outdrive for $175..
Chief, I'll take some pics in the morning and post them. Here's a couple of pics of the boat itself.
 

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