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Trim switch not working 1999 305

shawns99

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I have a 1999 305 with alpha one outdrive and my tilt up isn't working on the thumb switch. The boat shop said to replace the sensors on the sides of the outdrive?
 
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The boat shop said to replace the sensors on the sides of the outdrive?

Ayuh,... The Trim Limit Switch is probably Beat...
You can by-pass it inside the transom by switching/reconnecting the bullet connectors...
 
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Thanks man. I really didn't want to tear appart the outdrive right now. Were finally getting some good weather for boating.
 
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How the trim/tilt works

Before you tear anything apart or replace wiring and switches, test it out; first by visual inspection by pulling back and forth on the wires while operating the switches and then test with a meter. At the commander switches, the red wire will always have 12 volts. The green wire gets 12 volts when the trim toggle is held down. The blue wire gets 12 volts only when the toggle is held up or the trailer switch is pushed in. The purple wire is part of the limit switch circuit.

If the switch voltages are as they are supposed to be then go to the trim/tilt pump assy. and make sure the purple wire connector (single wire) and the blue wire connector with two blue wires on one side of the connection are not corroded or loose. These are the trim position and limit switch wires. Pull them apart and inspect; they should be clean and tight; reconnect them. If necessary, trace the wires to the front of the engine near the slave solenoid. One wire is grounded near there and the other is connected to a terminal. If you don't get a voltage reading at the terminal junction, apply 12 VDC to see if the trim gauge moves. If it does, check for voltage back at the trim pump connections. If no voltage is there, apply 12 VDC there to check gauge movement.

Next check the three wire connector (RED, BLUE & GREEN) at the pump assy. This plug can vibrate loose and cause your problem. Pull it off and see if the pins are clean and not corroded; reconnect it.

The RED wire in the plug sends 12 volts from the pump assy. to the toggle up/down and trailer up switches. The BLUE & GREEN wires bring 12 volts from the toggle trim/tilt and trailer switches to the two solenoids on the pump assy.

The GREEN wire goes to the DOWN solenoid while the BLUE wire goes to the UP solenoid.

Did you check the switches with an ohmmeter? The trim/tilt switch is a 2-way switch and will show continuity only when it is toggled in each direction between two of the wires.

Up toggle connects the RED wire to the BLUE wire. Down toggle connects the RED wire to the GREEN wire. The TRAILER UP switch also connects the RED wire to the BLUE wire.

The OD trim limit switch will only send voltage to the trim/tilt switch in the upward toggle position if the OD limit switch is below the adjusted trim limit that keeps the OD being out of the water.

To test the limit switch circuit, lower the OD to the down position and slowly raise it with the trim toggle up until it stops. Then measure the distance between the trim cylinder attaching bolts. If the distance is approx. 22 +/- 1/4 inches, then the trim limit switch is adjusted properly and the commander trim toggle switch is working in the up/down mode.

Go to the trim/tilt pump assy. and make sure the purple wire connector (single wire) and the blue wire connector two blue wires on one side of the connection are not corroded or loose. Pull them apart; they should be clean and tight; reconnect them.
Next check the three (RED, BLUE & GREEN) wire connector at the pump assy. The RED wire in the plug sends 12 volts from the pump assy. to the toggle up/down and trailer up switches. This plug can vibrate loose and cause your problem. Pull it off and see if the pins are clean and not corroded; reconnect it.

The BLUE & GREEN wires bring 12 volts from the switches to the two solenoids on the pump assy. The GREEN wire goes to the DOWN solenoid while the BLUE wire goes to the UP solenoid.

Disconnect the trim/tilt assy. wires from the battery and then check each of the nuts and studs on the solenoids for clean and tight fittings. Each solenoid has three wires and the buss bar connected to it. The bases of them have a black ground wire and a small blue wire to one and a small green wire to the other.

On top of each solenoid, the large BLUE wire from the pump motor attaches to a large copper stud with the solenoid that has the small blue wire at the base while the large GREEN wire from the pump motor attaches to a large copper stud with the solenoid that has the small green wire at the base.

The other copper solenoid studs are connected together with a copper buss bar. One of the two studs will also have a funny looking 110 amp fuse attached to the bar. The large RED wire from the battery connects to the 110 amp fuse. This large red wire is the power for this buss bar. A small RED wire attached to the bar stud sends 12 volts to the switches which in turn sends the 12 volts to the solenoids which turns on the pump motor.

Important: if the studs on the either solenoid are dark and not like a clean penny, especially the BLUE wired solenoid, this solenoid is failing due to age and/or a loose bottom copper stud nut. The dark color comes from heat generated inside of the solenoid by the contactor because it is arcing like welding similar to points wearing out. Change the solenoid.

Cleaning Trim Limit Switch & Trim Position Sender

For the trim/tilt problem you are experiencing, if the wires from the limit switch (port side) and trim position sender (starboard side) are in good condition, they (Switch or sender) can be disassembled to clean out the old hardened grease. SCRIBE the sides of each one and the OD for a reference mark before removal. Clean out the old grease and pump fresh Mercruiser 2-4-C grease thru the zerk fittings before reinstallation. Clean the small brass contact points with solvent and a pencil eraser until shiny; repack w/ 2-4-C grease and reinstall by aligning reference marks.
 
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Wow that really explains it. I really appreciate the help. I plan to tear into it this weekend. I'll let you know what I come up with.
 
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That Guy knows how to write a post ! I'm humbled, i write like chit. I spell like chit. Thinking about it i look like chit. I wonder do i smell like chit ?
 
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Guyjg.... one would think you might possibly have worked on one of these a time or twelve. Great post!
 
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I agree this is a great post. I read engine manuals for big diesel engines and they are so confusing I feel like I'm reading Chinese. I think this person would have a bright future at Detroit diesel engines.
 
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Left my tester at work so I have been looking for worn or loose wires. Haven't found any yet. Everything looks good except the sensors are packed full of grease. Got a little crazy with the grease gun. Do you think this could be a problem?
 
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Look inside the shifter handle for the harness connector; check the pins. Problem could be the switch or where the wires are bent to make the turn out of the handle. It's a wear point that should have had a little 2-4-C put there when installed but wasn't. The flat harnes wires are split in two around a screw base and then turned to exit the handle where they rub together.
 
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Good Idea. That is the one place I didn't check. The rain kept bothering me so I didn't fully uncover the boat. Lake Powell in two weeks
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I was trying to get the handle apart but maybe I'm doing it wrong. I was trying to pull the top piece off by the switches and it felt like it was going to break. Should I be pulling it off from the side where the whole assembly bolts on?
 
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Mine has two screws holding the cover on the length of the handle. Do you have a manual?
 
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Post a pic of your controll. The different models come apart differently.............................................
 
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I'll take a pic tomorrow. I cleaned the sensors with some brake clean and blew them dry.No change. I think theirs gonna be a wire problem because the last time I took it out it worked sometimes.
 
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The solenoid internal contacts may be faulty from age/use. Vibratrions could cause them to connect. Does it RAISE or LOWER when it occurs?
 
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Ok I have a pic of the handle. How in the world doe's it come appart?
 

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I took the boat out yesterday and realized the trim up switch works when the boat is in the water. And it worked all day. But it does not work out of water. So I thought maybe I was being fooled by the drive being up past the limit of safe operating height, where the trailer button takes over. I don't think that's the case, when I was doing the cable adjustments I had it all the way down and it wasn't working? Am I crazy? Or is there some magic juju going on?
 

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check the three prong plug at the trim pump and make sure it is plugged in all the way.............
 
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"when I was doing the cable adjustments I had it all the way down and it wasn't working? Am I crazy?"

No, you are not crazy. The only way to get the OD all the way down out of the water is to lower the bow. I'll bet it is working properly if the skeg hits the ground and you must stop. There is only a short distance of up travel on the OD before the limit switch kicks in to operation.
 
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