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2001 90 hp Johnson Ocean Pro 90 jerks ocassionally

"Just got this boat out of the shop and first time in the water since. I have owned it for 5 years and use it every weekend weather permitting. Was having dificulty shifting into forward gear. That was a problem with the linkage and is shifting fine now. This problem (see youtube video) has been ongoing and getting worse. At idle it is fine but as you get up on plane the engine jerks or bucks every few seconds. I have the correct prop on it and the engine runs fine. Anyone have any ideas or experienced this before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfL2a3UelBA"
 
"I have been told by my mechan

"I have been told by my mechanic who I generally trust that I will have to have the lower unit rebuilt. Was looking for a second opinion. $455 for gears, $101 for clutch dog and $86 for kit plus labor for $1157 ouch!!! Motor has about 350 hours on it and is stored indoors when not in use. I have to wonder if excessive towing has been a contributor. Skis, tubes, ect... with 90 HP."
 
"(Jumping Out Of Gear - Ma

"(Jumping Out Of Gear - Manual Type)
(J. Reeves)

This pertains to lower units on all OMC manual shift outboard engines, or any OMC engine with lower units defined as a Shift Assist or a Hydro Electric Shift unit which incorporates a "Shifter Clutch Dog".

Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog, hereafter simply called dog. The dog has at least two lobes protruding from it on both ends, facing both forward and reverse gear. The forward and reverse gears also have lobes built into them near their center area. When the engine is running, in neutral, the gears are spinning constantly via the driveshaft being connected directly to the powerhead crankshaft, but the propeller does not turn due to the fact that the dog is centered between the two gears, and the dog lobes are not touching either of the gear lobes.

When the unit is put into either gear, shift linkages force the dog (and its lobes of course) to engage the lobes of the gear. The lobes of the spinning gear grab the lobes of the dog, and since the dog is splined to the prop shaft, the propeller turns.

The lobes of the dog and gears are precisely machined, most with right angled edges that could be installed in either direction, and some with angles slightly varied that must be installed in one direction only (one end only must face the propeller). Dogs that can be installed in one direction only, if reversed, even if the dog and both gears were new.... would jump out of gear almost immediately. Keep in mind that the lobes are precisely machined with sharp angles!

Due to improper adjustment or worn shift linkages, but usually due to improper slow shifting, those precisely machined sharp edges of the lobes become slightly rounded. Now, with those lobes rounded, as the rpms increase, the pressure of the gear lobes upon the dog lobes increases to a point whereas they are forced apart (jumping out of gear), and due (usually) to the shift cable keeping tension on the engines shift linkages..... the unit is forced back into gear giving one the sensation that the engine has hit something, and the cycle continues.

Some boaters with manual shift engines have the mistaken belief that shifting slowly is taking it easy on all of the shifting components..... Wrong! Shifting slowly allows those precisely machined sharp edges of the dog and gears to click, clank, bang, slam against each other many times before they are finally forced into alignment with each other..... and this is what rounds those edges off! The proper way to shift is to snap the unit into gear as quickly as possible.

Thousands of parts in my remaining stock. Not able to list them all. Let me know what you need and I'll look it up for you. Visit my eBay store at:

http://stores.ebay.com/Evinrude-Johnson-Outboard-Parts-etc?refid=store"
 
"Sorry, I didn't notice &#

"Sorry, I didn't notice (in the video)that the motor was jumping out of gear I was thinking it was just sneezing..."
 
"Thanks Joe. Yeah, Nicknack it

"Thanks Joe. Yeah, Nicknack it is very annoying especially after long winter and weather just getting better. Didn't expect to dump $1000 plus into this boat. But out to sea I must go!
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"Pertaining to my above explan

"Pertaining to my above explanation, this holds true UNLESS you've had the lower unit off and have turned the shift rod one way or the other.

Turning the shift rod would change the critical length of the rod which would in turn affect the shift throw (engage one gear too much, the other gear not enough).

Another cause would be having someone change the shift cable adjustment where the cable clamps into the engine. That can be checked as follows.

(Centering Shift Cable)
(J. Reeves)

When all is as it should be, the proper method to adjust the shift cable is to disconnect the cable from the engine. Move the shift linkage on the engine to find the center of the play in neutral, and when found, leave it centered.

Now, grab the end of the shift cable sleeve, push and pull it to find the center of the play there, and center that play.

Adjust the trunion on the threaded portion of the shift cable so that the centered play of the cable lines up with the centered play of the engine's shift linkage. Install and lock the shift cable with the retaining clamp in that position. That's it.

Thousands of parts in my remaining stock. Not able to list them all. Let me know what you need and I'll look it up for you. Visit my eBay store at:

http://stores.ebay.com/Evinrude-Johnson-Outboard-Parts-etc?refid=store

Now.... are those red shorts coast guard approved?(grin)"
 
"Thanks Joe! I put new cables

"Thanks Joe! I put new cables in it myself last summer and may not have had them adjusted properly but it was working. The lower unit has never been off of it. It is 2001 model with about 400 hours on it. I had my boat mechanic go through it last week and free things up and it shifted fine into the first detante but as I give it throttle it started jumping. Those shorts match the funnel on Carnival ships, my other hobby."
 
Aha..... Hopefully the shift c

Aha..... Hopefully the shift cable is not adjusted (centered) properly and correcting that may save the day. A misadjusted shift cable would function for awhile but eventually the problem you're having would surface. Here's hoping you get lucky...... let us know.
 
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