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sandmanwv
05-30-2007, 06:48 PM
"I have looked through the posts but have not found anything relating to my situation. Recently I was left a boat and Montgomery Ward Sea King 5. Problem is it has been setting for about ten years and I know absolutely nothing about it.
The model number is 35GG-9015A
serial number is 474264
Can someone give me any info about it? I don't know what gas/oil mix I should use, I don't even know if it will run. Especially appreciated would be recommendations to restore it to proper running condition.

Thanks"

winman99
05-31-2007, 12:23 AM
"35GG9015A Looks to be a 1953
It looks like it's original spark plug was a J6J (you can look up its replacement), and 1/2 a pint to the gallon of gas. That's a 16:1 ratio, and it's going to smoke. Don't get carried away with using a leaner mixture. Some will tell you that with today's oils you can go leaner, but I wouldn't recommend it, especially if your going to be running it full throttle, It will need the lubrication. Be sure to use a good outboard 2-cycle oil."

willsterman
06-01-2007, 12:13 AM
"I just picked up my grandfathers Sea King 5 hp Model 35GG-9014A, after having it serviced. I took it for a little spin and it ran fine. This one had sat for about 25 years, so I took it for service before I even tried to start it. The mechanic fixes lots of old motors and said he: Cleaned the points, probably checked the gap on them too, replaced the condensers, cleaned the carbs, and replaced the lower unit grease (oil?). Total charge $30. I couldn't believe the low amount I was charged. Before he looked at it he said he would determine if it was worth fixing since he couldn't get carburator parts and the coils were expensive. He did say they are good running motors if they don't have expensive or irrepairable problems. He recommended using good quality TCW III oil such as Mercury and mixing 20 to 1. He said 16 to one would foul the plugs too easily. My number is so close to yours, it must be about a 1953 also, although I'd like to know for sure. Mine doesn't put out much water from the exhaust grooves above the water, so I hope the impeller is OK. Good luck with yours."

mnobfan
06-01-2007, 05:35 AM
"Will, the 9014A is also a 1953 model year. I usually don't see more than light spray from the grooves on my Sea King but does increase some with increase in engine speed. As long as you can place your hand on the side of the motor (side covers removed) and not feel uncomfortable heat you shouldn't have a problem. From the sounds of it your mechanic knows his business. If in doubt ask him to do a tank test. Although it is highly probable he did that when he tuned it."

mnobfan
06-01-2007, 05:40 AM
Hopefully someone else can explain the difference between the 9014A and 9015A. Both are 1953 5HP motors made by Gale for Wards. Cross referenced to Gale as models 5S10 and 5D10 respectively.

willsterman
06-02-2007, 01:41 AM
Thank you Curt. I appreciate the information.

sandmanwv
06-02-2007, 04:54 PM
Where is the water pump located?? I took 4 bolts out of the bottom and there was oil and a shaft but no impeller.

galamb
06-02-2007, 08:34 PM
"Not familiar with the motor, but it may be on the prop shaft instead of the drive. Some early Mercs were like this as well..."

Konrad
08-26-2007, 03:12 PM
"Hello...I have read most postings from folks with Montgomery Ward Sea King outboard questions pertaing to Year Identification and manufacturer. I have a 5 HP Sea King Model # GG9001B, S/N 55596885. If anyone can provide information on this motor, it would be greatly appreciated. The motor is intact and has good compression. I added a 16:1 fuel oil mix and tried starting it with no luck. Figuring the points may need attention, I pulled the flywheel and found the ignition coils (2ea) with their insulators cracked from age?? The insulators look to be a red plastic material which is peeling and breaking away from the coils. I believe that that's the reason that I am not getting ignition. The points looked great and appear OK as well as the condensors. I would like to replace the coils and am wondering if there is someplace that still sells parts for these old motors. Anyone out there that can provide feedback - it will be greatly appreciated."

Will M
08-27-2007, 12:49 AM
"Konrad
I am far from an expert; however, the mechanic that worked on my SeaKing used some parts from GLM marine. http://www.glmmarine.com/pdf/JohnEvin_Catalog.pdf ("")
Look at page 144 or thereabouts. My mechanic used condensors for an old evinrude. I'm not sure if the coils would work or not. GLM Marine may know, but they may not sell direct to the public."

DALE MAREK
08-27-2007, 03:50 PM
"I HAVE AQUIRED A WARDS SEA HORSE 5HP, WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO FIND PARTS IN CENTRAL TEXAS. MOTOR RUNS WELL. NEEDS WATER PUMP, PLUGS, POINTS, AND CARB KIT. THIS IS A MODEL XTV505554 WHAT YEAR WAS THIS MADE."

Konrad
08-29-2007, 01:11 AM
Thanks Will...very good information and also a very nice catalog. This will surely help get my 5 Horse Sea King King Model # GG9001B running again.

Lou Ondracek
09-10-2007, 04:13 PM
"I have a 1968 Sea King 5 hp model # GG-18801A. It ran good until this year. Can't get it started. It's getting gas to the carb, and I believe beyond that. I've cleaned and gapped the plugs but have not torn into it enough to check the points or such in the magneto. Anyone have any advice?"

winman99
09-11-2007, 12:21 PM
"Have you checked to see if you are getting any spark? Remove the plugs and rest the metal threads against a good ground, such as the engine block and pull the cord. Make sure there is spark jumping across the gap (do it in a shady spot). If so, squirt a couple drops of mixed fuel into the cylinder (or cylinders), reinstall the plugs and try. If it sputters, you likely have carburetor issues. If you left fuel in since last year, there is a good chance you have varnish and other gunk clogging the jets in the carburetor. Hope this helps."

Jeffrey Harris
10-22-2007, 10:37 AM
"Hi,
I've been reading these posts with a great deal of interest. Recently (Oct. 20, 2007) I was scuba diving in Lake Minnetonka when in about 7 feet of water I discovered a Montgomery Ward model#35GG-9015A Sea King 5 motor laying on the bottom. I brought the motor home with me. The lake has caused some corrosion and the gas cap is missing but I would think that this motor could be used for parts. It must have been running very well before it went to the bottom of the lake because it still has part of the boat in its grip. Does anyone have advise on what I should do with this motor? 612-221-1282"

winman99
10-22-2007, 12:56 PM
"Is the motor able to turn over, or is it seized up? If it turns over, it may be easily salvageable. One thing that worries me is that the gas cap is missing. It would be unlikely that the cap would come undone while submerged. What may have happened is that someone sunk it on purpose. I have heard of people taking old wooden boats out and sinking them on purpose, sometimes with old broken motors attached to them, or lying in the bottom to help them sink. Some claim it makes a good artificial reef for fish to gather. Regardless, if it is not seized, or too badly corroded, it would make a good project. Otherwise, use it as a decoration."

galamb
10-22-2007, 01:14 PM
"Jeffery, I would agree with Wayne. That was originally a pretty nice little motor. Built by Gale which was a division of OMC, so a fair number of the parts may be the same as a Johnson/Evinrude of the same era.

That is a 1953, twin cylinder 5 horse model. Might be well worth disassembly, a good clean up and then an assessment of possibility of getting it running again...."

Jeffrey Harris
10-29-2007, 01:14 PM
I'd be willing to give this 5hp Motgomery Ward motor to someone. I have no where to display it myself. Anyone interested?

D L Ballard
04-17-2008, 02:48 PM
"We have an old Montomery Wards Sea King, decking has rotted where battery sits, any ideas on how to repair this?
Thanks for any help. DLB"

galamb
04-17-2008, 08:34 PM
"I assume you are talking about the decking on the boat? Although this is an "engine" website, can maybe point you in the right direction.

What material is the deck built with - wood? fiberglass? aluminum? steel??"

tinkerbell
05-21-2008, 04:14 PM
i have just purchased a montgomery ward with a 7 h\p by clinton my problem is how to lubricate the bottom unit can anyone help thank you.

MattTaylor
05-28-2008, 03:36 PM
"Hi... I have a VWB 52298 US Marine Sea KIng motor. I know it's a 1985 model. The motor will only run while it's choked. It will put around, but won't plane out while being choked... any ideas?"

galamb
05-29-2008, 04:26 AM
Sounds like the carb needs a good cleaning - probably a partially clogged jet...

MattTaylor
05-29-2008, 11:04 AM
"Do you think Gumout or something would do it, or do I have to mechanically push something through the jet?(makes me nervous)Should I get a gasket kit for after the cleaning?"

winman99
05-29-2008, 02:41 PM
"You could soak the non-rubber parts in carb cleaner to loosen gum etc. I have a trolling rod that uses wire line which is fine enough to fit through any jet holes I've ever come across and use that as well.
If you can salvage the old gaskets and are 100% sure they seal properly, go ahead, but for the price I'd replace them. I'm not familiar with that engine, but there are likely some diaphrams inside the carb to pump the fuel that may have weakened over time.
Although by your post it sounds like you intend to disassemble the carburetor, just make sure you don't use automotive carb cleaner in the fuel while the engine is running as it can damage your engine."

MattTaylor
05-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Thank you so much Wayne for your knowledge and advice!

Gary Scovill
06-03-2008, 12:02 PM
"My son was given a M Wards Sea King 3. Model GG9006A, SN 75X656795. It runs good, but he can't determine if its air or water cooled. There doesn't appear to be a water pump or inlet/outlet ports, but there are no fins that you might expect on a air cooled engine. Any help would be greatly appreciated."

winman99
06-03-2008, 08:52 PM
"Hey Gary,
Your motor appears to be a 1947-48. Made by Gale (OMC).
It is water cooled, but the impeller is in the lower gear housing connected to the prop shaft vs having a water pump/impeller setup above the gears where you would normally find them.
To get at it you have to remove the prop, then there is a plate you have to undo which will give you access to the impeller. There is a seal behind that that you should look at replacing if you have it apart.
There are still impellers available out there. If you need to, you can email me and I can direct you to a few sites that you will likely find one at.
Hope this helps."

Gary Scovill
06-05-2008, 01:20 PM
"Thank you so much Wayne. I will pass this on to my son, and email you off list. He is very good with small engines, but I'm sure he will need help finding parts."

chad bell
06-05-2008, 04:48 PM
I've got 1 45GG-9015A I'm trying to get running with my father in law. He discovered the clutch cable (?) is broken. Any suggestions on where to start or where to find a drawing?

brim_buster
06-05-2008, 06:26 PM
"chad, i have pdf repair manuals i will email you."

chad bell
06-06-2008, 11:19 AM
"Scott, Thanks alot, I really appreciate it. email is cebell71@comcast.net ("]bellc@inopakinc.com[/url] or [url=")"

Dave Ameigh
06-10-2008, 09:41 PM
"I have a 1948 5HP Montgomery Wards Sea King boat motor. Have had running in a barrel of water and it pushes oil through exhaust into oil a lot. Has'nt run in along time, will this clear up? Where would I get new rings? Where can I get a repair manual or even a motor brakdown picture. Thanks"

galamb
06-11-2008, 12:56 AM
"Dave, if you have your date correct your motor will have been built by Gale (OMC).

However, this is a 2 stroke, so the oil won't be a result of bad rings. Oil in the exhaust is quite normal. If you have a super excess it's because of either too much oil in the gas or motor is running a little too rich and not burning enough of your mixture up.

You may be able to get a manual from www.discount-marine-parts.com ("")"

staciklang
06-16-2008, 09:17 PM
I am desperatelt trying to figure out the year my 15HP Sea King was made. Can't register it until I found out.

Serial#:30095

model#:VWB 52115B

staciklang
06-16-2008, 09:19 PM
Sorry....
Sea King 15HP
Model: VWB 52115B
Serial: 87X 30095

galamb
06-17-2008, 05:32 AM
"That is a 1978, Chrysler built (for Wards), twin cylinder 15 horse..."

Scott Bowman
06-17-2008, 08:11 PM
"hey i have a 1968 ward sea king 6 hp and my pull start assembly has broken off the motor housing and info on where to find old parts or a repair manuel would be greatly appreciated, i have spent hours trying to find on the internet with no luck THANKS!!!"

galamb
06-17-2008, 08:46 PM
"Scott, can probably get a manual from www.twincityoutboards.com ("]www.discount-marine-parts.com[/url]

For parts, you can try [url=") - not the cheapest recycler in the business, but have absolutely everything...."

brim_buster
06-18-2008, 06:57 AM
"scott, i sent you repair manuals in pdf format for your motor. hope they help."

jeff Boots
06-20-2008, 04:58 PM
I have a 3 hp montgomery wards sea king model GG8804A. I got it running but it got hot fast. Any one know how the water pump works. I dont know what to do now.

brim_buster
06-20-2008, 10:45 PM
were you running it in a barrel or in open water?

winman99
06-21-2008, 03:34 AM
"You have a 1960 motor made by the Gale division of OMC. It likely has an impeller on the prop shaft, not in the middle of the gear housing like most outboards."

galamb
06-21-2008, 10:24 AM
"If you are ever looking for replacement parts for some of these older/discontinued models you can check out www.laingsoutboards.com ("") - they have supplied me with waterpump kits for my 59 Gale 40 horse for a number of years now..."

randy springston
06-21-2008, 12:10 PM
newbie onboard here. i have just bought a 5 hp
sea king motor at auction. can anyone tell me
year model and proper oil/gas mix ratio? all help
greatly appreciated. model number is vwb19072 and
serial number is 46x12384.

thesassybaker
06-22-2008, 02:10 AM
I am trying to find a manual for parts and service for a sea king model #35GG90144 serial number 430771 can anyone help me?

Dawn Mielke
06-22-2008, 01:13 PM
"We aquired a Montogomery Ward Sea King 3 hp model # 35GG-9004B serial # 506074.. Where can we find info on this motor? ie: year made, value, etc?"

Dawn Mielke
06-22-2008, 01:17 PM
"We aquired a Montogomery Ward Sea King 3 hp model # 35GG-9004B serial # 506074.. Where can we find info on this motor? ie: year made, value, etc?"

galamb
06-22-2008, 01:36 PM
"Dawn, that is a 1953 model, built by Gale (formerly a division of OMC).

There are litterally thousands of these old, low horsepower, generics out there. If it is running well it may be worth 50 to 100 bucks, but in most cases they can be picked up for somewhere around 25 dollars.

Their value lies if they are still running and YOU can use it, saving you the cost of a newer motor..."

galamb
06-22-2008, 02:39 PM
"Amy, that is also a 1953 Gale model.

You can try www.discount-marine-parts.com ("")

They have copies of manuals for most discontinued models.."

Scott Bowman
06-23-2008, 06:38 PM
"hey thanks for the help everyone still looking for a 1969 sea king inlet manifold, tried all the sites above with no luck, still spending hours on the net and phone any info would rreaallyyy help THANKS"

paul w
06-25-2008, 10:19 PM
hey guys i have a 1969 55hp sea king i have gear lube comming out of the water holes in the side of lower unit i got the lower unit off but how do you get to seals under impeller if anyone has a web site with instructions or advise i would appreciate it thanks

winman99
06-25-2008, 11:46 PM
"Hey Paul. First off, are you sure it's gear oil? Could it possibly be unburned fuel and oil making it's way through the exhaust and out the nearest available hole? Just a shot in the dark. If you want, I have an exploded view of a 1968 SeaKing 55HP that I could give you. If you want, click on my name to get my email address and I could send it."

paul w
06-28-2008, 10:19 AM
hey wayne thanks for the info yes it was gear oil the drive shaft seal was bad got it fixed. But thank you for your help.

Bill Snow
06-29-2008, 02:21 PM
"I recently acquired a Sea King 6 from a relative who said it has not ran in years. Model VWB28906A, Serial 86X10158. I know nothing about this motor. I pulled the plugs and they are clean. I removed the flywheel and everything was clean and shiny, but I filed and gapped the points anyway. I put it back together and there is no spark. Anyone have any ideas? I also would like to know what lube to use in the lower unit and what mixture the fuel should be.

Thanks,

Bill"

Thomas Rist sr
07-10-2008, 05:44 PM
"newbie onboard here. I recently acquired a Sea King 5 out board from a relative who said it has not ran in years.He's Not sure what year this motor was made &
Model GG8960A, Serial 75X664105.

I know nothing about this motor. I'm need a repair manuals & instruction on everything about this motor.can anyone tell me the year model and proper oil/gas mix ratio? You can contact me at tomrist@ptd.net ("") with any help & it would be greatly appreciated."

Daniel Jackson
07-30-2008, 12:39 PM
"I have a 45gg-9015a mongomery ward seaking 5hp i know that it is a 1954 made by gale mod 5d10 but i cant find any parts manuals, the motor has good compression but cant really test any farther because i dont know which spark plugs i need. if any one could help me that would be great."

winman99
07-30-2008, 05:55 PM
"Thomas, your motor is a 1957. Both you and Daniel need the same plugs. Originally you needed J6-J plugs, now replaced by J6-C, gapped at .035. You need 24:1 fuel/oil (use TCW-3 oil) mixture for these motors."

Daniel Jackson
07-30-2008, 09:00 PM
any tips on cleaning my gas tank there is a bunch of "crude" on and around the gas cap and not sure about inside of the tank

winman99
07-30-2008, 09:55 PM
"I've used good quality screws/washers/nuts - whatever I've had laying around. Shake around until the tank is clean then dump them out. I count how many I put in the tank since a stray can block the fuel line. If that doesn't work, there is also Kreem Tank-Prep and tank sealer, as well as other types of gas tank cleaners and sealers. That is just one brand, but it should give you a good start."

Daniel Jackson
08-01-2008, 12:08 AM
How about lubrication for the lower part of my motor is that a special oil

and thank you for all of your help

winman99
08-01-2008, 12:44 AM
SAE 90 outboard motor gear oil. Available everywhere.

wallybass
08-02-2008, 04:21 PM
trying to find year of Sea King Five Model # GG187360 Serial # 26X853414 Thank You

galamb
08-02-2008, 04:53 PM
"Walter, it's all in your numbers.

The "GG" 187360 tells you it was built by Gale (OMC) for Wards.

The first two digits of the serial are the year of manufacture (inverted) so the 26X breaks down to 62 or 1962..."

DanCrummett
08-06-2008, 01:08 AM
"I'm working on a GG9004A 3 hp. Sea King sold by Montgomery Wards for a friend. If someone would be kind enough to tell me the year of MFG I'd appreciate it. I'm confident it's a Gale product.

Also, where is the most likely source of a water pump impeller and seal assembly for this motor?"

DanCrummett
08-06-2008, 01:11 AM
"Whoops...got the combination for figuring year of Manufacture in the last post.... Still need to know where to get an impeller and seal for lower unit.

Thanks,

Dan"

winman99
08-06-2008, 01:32 AM
"It is a 1955 (which you probably figured out), http://tinyurl.com/5l4zgq ("]http://www.vintageoutboard.com/[/url] is likely the best place for the impeller. You can also try [url=")"

galamb
08-06-2008, 03:45 AM
"You can also try www.laingsoutboards.com ("")"

shawnandcandy
08-06-2008, 09:08 PM
"I just got a sea king the # on it are 74gg9012 I tried to get it running and it will start for about 3 seconds then die,I would love some imput on what this could be,the motor looks as it is almost new and I would like to see her run if any one could give me some good advice I would be gratefull thank you..."

shawnandcandy
08-06-2008, 09:28 PM
I also have a cruse n carry 6 hp if anyone could help me out with information on how to get parts for this motor I would be gratefull thank you for your time....

winman99
08-06-2008, 09:45 PM
"Hey Shawn,
For the record, you have a 1947-1948 model made by the Gale division of OMC.
Running for 3 seconds and dying is likely one of 2 things. It's either starving for fuel, or flooding. Pop the plugs out and see if they are dry or soaked. Have you taken the carburetor off and cleaned it? There are several things to check on that motor before trying to run it for too long. Is it pumping water (which requires it to run for a while), are the coils in good shape, is there oil in the bottom end, plus a few other things. I'd start with a good carb cleaning."

shawnandcandy
08-06-2008, 09:53 PM
"wayne I took off the carb and cleaned it the best I know how just speayed carb cleaner through it,when I opened up the carb the float was in rough shape so I put a new cork in it,when I checked the plugs they seemed to be dry,is ther some kind of fuel pump in the carb?"

winman99
08-07-2008, 02:43 AM
"There are likely gum deposits and "crud" in all the orifices inside the carb. There is no fuel pump on this carb, just gravity and a float system to regulate the fuel. If it were mine, I'd disassemble the carb, cleaning everything carefully and inspecting any needle valves etc. I'd also inspect the inside of the fuel tank to make sure it is clean as well."

Burt Hengst
08-11-2008, 04:21 PM
I have a 35HP sea king outboard motor and like toknow the oil/gas ratioo

dbaurmcg
08-16-2008, 01:57 AM
I acquired a 1961 15hp Sea King (Johnson I think). I took it to the marina where they got it running well. When I was there I thought I heard it get to full speed in the tank. Now it will only get up to full speed right after I start the motor if I throttle all the way. Once i throttle down it will only go to little over half speed. I can kill the motor and start it up and it will go to full speed but if i throttle down or wait a bit before throttling all the way it will go back to halkf power. any info would be great!

Bobby Lemons
08-19-2008, 09:48 PM
"I purchased a 1968 wards sea king 3.5 hp motor. been siiting for a lot of years, but cleaned it up did some adjustments runs great. But i need to know if it has a water pump,has plenty of fins on engine put it in a barrel of water but did not see any water pumping out.I see a small curved pipe backside of propeller and a hole abut six inches above prop and seems to be exhaust coming from that also has doubled row of small holes just below engine and thats exhaust."

brim_buster
08-22-2008, 06:31 AM
yes bobby it has an impellor ( rubber) water pump according to my repair manual. the double row of holes is the water intake which is where the water goes into the lower end. the water keeps the lower end cool from the exhaust

Mark Glawe
09-19-2008, 08:25 PM
"Hi all,
There is a 12' boat for sale in the neighborhood and it has a Wards 3.5 model VWB19069A S/N 66X12474 on it. I'm guessing from previous posts that this is a 1966 motor and that parts are probably still available from some of the vendors listed above. The owner said it runs but needs a tune up. Who made the VWB motors for Wards? It has cooling fins on the cylinder, is it water-cooled also? Last question, if the motor does in fact run, is it worth $300.00?
Thanks, Mark"

galamb
09-20-2008, 01:25 AM
"Mark, that is a Chrysler built engine (sort of).

The motor itself is worth maybe 50 bucks. If he want's 300 bucks for the whole package and the boat is in ok shape it may be worth it.

Yes, it is a 66 model which is 1 year after Chrysler bought West Bends outboard division. So basically what you have there is a left-over, single cylinder, 3.5 horse West Bend that was kicked out the door by Chrysler and dressed in Wards decals/colours.

If the motor needs much more than a carb cleaning and a new sparkplug, I would personally not spend the money on it. As stated above, it can be easily replaced with even a newer model air-cooled motor for about 50 bucks..."

Dale Borum
09-30-2008, 01:20 PM
"I have a 9.9 Sea King Model # VWB 52299, Serial # 20468. Can anyone tell me the year it was made, and if any other year and or model # lower units will work on this motor. The individual I got it from tried shifting it into gear at WOT. Thanks for any Information, dale"

Roger Kjonaas
10-02-2008, 05:00 PM
"Several years ago I purchased a Sea King, I think 6 hp. Model VWB27906A, Serial 76x12378

I was told to use 40-1 gas-oil but after reading these posts I wonder. I have never used it because it ran bad and now all of the grease leaks out of the lower unit.

Is it hard to replace the seals and am I using the right gas mixture? Thanks for your time!!!"

lane
10-04-2008, 03:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what year my Sea King 5 is ?
model 45GG-9015A

galamb
10-05-2008, 10:25 AM
"Lane, that is a 1954 Gale (OMC) built model.."

Jeff spencer
10-06-2008, 10:53 AM
"Hi all,
I picked up a 3.5 hp Sea King, believe it is a 66 model.
I dont know much about motors but a buddy of mine is helping me with it.
He cleaned the carb out, I put new gaskets, fuel line and in-line fuel filter and new spark plug cable. The motor has good compression.
Some times it starts up on a pull but most of the times it doesent, it seems like its not getting fuel. If we shoot some gas into the cylinder and put the plug back in it starts every time.
Is there something we a missing?
We did clean the jets out.

Thanks for any and all help...Jeff"

Jeff Spencer
10-07-2008, 11:19 AM
"model # VWB19068B, Se# 66XC12819"

philsk5
10-07-2008, 04:43 PM
I have a Clinton outboard engine model # J9-1101 its air cooled looks old but runs really good .Anyone know how old it is and what size it is?The guy that sold me the boat said its a 7 horse and the boat it came on is a 12 foot aluminum Elgin from the sixties.

winman99
10-07-2008, 06:31 PM
"Phil, your motor is a 5 HP - see http://www.discount-marine-parts.com/ob_sea_king_chrysler_model.html ("]http://www.discount-marine-parts.com/ob_clinton_1.html[/url]
Jeff, yours is a 1965, Chrysler made engine. See [url=")
Jeff, does your motor stay running after you prime it, or just stall once the fuel in the cylinder runs out? When you changed the fuel line and put in the filter, you didn't make it so the fuel has to travel "up hill" did you? Also make sure that you are using the proper size fuel line. Too big and it won't seal tight on the fittings, causing an air leak.
If the motor sat for an extended time, make sure you soak all the metal carb parts (jets too) for a while and blow them out.
Hopefully that is a good starting point."

jeff spencer
10-07-2008, 10:16 PM
"Wayne,
I fired the motor up today, if I set the throttle in the "fast" position and pull the cord, it runs fine without conking out. When I move the throttle down to "start" it conks out. Does the carb just need to be fine tuned from this point?
It was pulling fuel from the tank, actually ran the tank dry.
What should the ratio be, some say 24:1 others 50:1?
Thanks..Jeff"

winman99
10-08-2008, 01:44 PM
"It does sound like you have a low-speed jet problem if it runs fine at high speed. Either clogged or out of adjustment. As a general rule, I adjust the low speed jet on a motor I don't know about 1 1/2 turns out from seated and adjust from there (I don't know your motor, so it's only a guess). That's assuming everything else is clean and adjusted properly.
Again, I don't know your motor, but assume it is 24:1 because of its age. If it's air cooled, make sure you use chainsaw type oil. I wish I was more precise, but hope this helps."

jeff spencer
10-08-2008, 04:07 PM
"Wayne, thank you for the information, I'll try adjusting the jets like you say.
Atleast she fired up http://www.marineengine.com/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif"

towzilla
11-14-2008, 04:16 PM
Can someone tell me what year this Sea king five is and horse power Numbers are GG18732A serial 26X83049 I need coils for sure other than that are they worth fixing up. It hasn't run for nearly 16 yaers. but ran ok at the time. Tried vintageoutboard but no numbers for my motor. best place to find parts? Thank you. Mike.}

winman99
11-14-2008, 08:01 PM
"I can't find any reference to a GG18732A. The closest is a GG-18736A, which is a 1961 5HP. Your motor was made by the Gale division of OMC, and would almost guaranteed use the part 18-5181 listed there. I see this site (marineengine.com) has them cheaper. http://www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=SIE18-5181&ptype=&Eng ine=&Model= ("")
Re-check the number. Either that, or hopefully someone else on this site will have information on your specific motor.
Yes, your motor would definitely be worth fixing up. It shares most of its components with Johnson/Evinrudes of the day. As for finding parts, marineengine.com will have most of the maintenance parts you need."

westerndigger
01-18-2009, 05:03 PM
"<font face=""arial&#44;helvetica""></font>looking for a part for a wards sea king 5hp
part #525781/Interlock starter
goes on the post starter spring guide at the very top. it is #6 under illus. no.
in parts book model no. VWB 52179 page&#39;s #8-9
under starter
any help would help greatly
530-533-5004 CA.}"

grumpymike
01-18-2009, 08:28 PM
You have a Seaking made by Chrysler. A good source of parts for them is: franzmarine.com
816-966-8085. He is located in Grandview Mo.
he has had everything that I needed for my Seaking 6. Good Luck

gmarsh24
03-26-2009, 04:16 PM
"I just bought a sea king with the number 74GG-9012 It was been on an outboard stand in a garage for 12 years but it looks pretty clean and the top turns, so it is not locked up. What should I do as far as cleaning this motor up to get it running. Should I take it somewhere or can I do it myself. Any info on the year of this motor would be handy also."

winman99
03-26-2009, 05:25 PM
"Hey Grant.
It&#39;s a 1947/48 5 HP, made by the Gale division of OMC.
As far as getting it running after that long sitting, make sure that it has good spark, a clean fuel system, a working water pump impeller, and good compression. As for spark, I&#39;d probably take off the flywheel and make sure the coils aren&#39;t cracked and the points aren&#39;t rusted. You could possibly cheat this step if you simply remove the plug from the hole and pull it over, but it&#39;s better to be safe than sorry. The carb likely needs to be disassembled and cleaned thoroughly, and the tank should be cleaned. I&#39;d recommend replacing any rubber fuel lines the motor has just because the originals would be degraded by now. The impeller may pump water for you, but is likely dried and brittle. I wouldn&#39;t trust it to be useable for any length of time, and definitely wouldn&#39;t trust it. I don&#39;t know exactly what impeller it would need, but since it was made by OMC, it&#39;s likely a fairly common one.
I would guess it is part# 900040 at http://www.vintageoutboard.com/JEImpellersLowerUnit/JOHNEVINImpeller_1.html ("")

I have a similar motor to yours, and it ran great for years. It started to overheat back in the days before internet, so I never did get around to replacing the impeller. I hope to change that in the near future."

blanky36
04-15-2009, 07:44 PM
"I have a sea king 5hp GG8822A ser# 06x779332. Is the water pump at the top of the lower unit or at the bolt on section of the lower unit? I saw a picture of a hiawatha pump and was wondering if maybe the hiawatha was also made by gale products in Galesburg, IL. It was a divison of OMC and made Evinrudes as well."

gmarsh24
05-26-2009, 03:33 PM
"Hey wayne,

Where is the water pump impellor located on the motor? Also, I got it running, it runs fine on &#34;start&#34; but when I idle down to the red line, it dies. Is there a neutral, also what does the red line above the throttle represent? Also, I have fuel leaking from the top of the fuel reservoir that contains the cork that is pushed down when you prime it, shouldn&#39;t there be some sort of gasket on there? Where could I find one?"

sandmanwv
05-26-2009, 05:39 PM
Can anyone tell me where the water pump is located on a Montgomery Sea King 5 hp model# 35GG-9015A

Thanks in advance!!

galamb
05-28-2009, 01:05 PM
"It is located in the lower unit - that is a 1953 Gale model.

Could either be on the driveshaft or propshaft - don&#39;t have a manual for that vintage - but will be in one place or the other.

Try www.discount-marine-parts.com ("") they have copies of original manuals for this model."

catfisher
06-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Hi
I have a montgomery ward sea king 5hp

model no. k500 3108c
serial no. 1054151
Type no. xtv 52250

it is not getting any spark. I also need a female fuel line conection piece.

please help with this.

john gardill

lewdy
06-19-2009, 09:26 PM
"can any of you guys tell me what the year and make is on a montgomeryward 5hp seaking is ,red and grey in color and are they good motors, the model number is 94gg9014a and serial number326373; thanks a bunch, lewdys123"

galamb
06-19-2009, 09:34 PM
"Lewis, that&#39;s a 1949 Gale &#40;OMC&#41; built model - and yes, they were a great little motor almost 50 years ago. Surprisingly, many maintenance parts are still available..."

lewdy
06-19-2009, 10:57 PM
"thank you graham for the feedback i very much appreciate it,i just bought it and plan on using it soon, do you know what the fuel to oil mixture reccomend is."

galamb
06-20-2009, 12:08 AM
Yep - 24:1 - regular unleaded and TCW3 marine 2 stroke oil.

Do yourself and the motor a favour though. Stop by NAPA &#40;or similar&#41; and pick up a bit of bulk fuel line &#40;take a piece from under the hood to get the size correct&#41; and replace it all. The old rubber don&#39;t play too well with the ethanol in todays fuel.

lewdy
06-20-2009, 11:02 AM
"once again thank you for your very helpfull knowledge ,only have one more question and that is what was the original spark plug so i can cross reffrence ; ps i will take your advice on the fuel lines and i reccomend this sight to anybody"

galamb
06-20-2009, 02:35 PM
"I can&#39;t remember what the original plug was &#40;may have been a J6C - but guessing&#41;, but you can run a Champion, either J11C or RJ12C gapped at .030&#34; - that&#39;s the modern recommendation for that motor.

The RJ12C will cut down on ignition noise if you have a radio, fishfinder, gps etc on board."

moorish127
06-20-2009, 11:05 PM
I have a 3.5 hp sea king.
Model No. XTV 50535B
Serial No. 1613540
Type No. K550 6106A
Could some one tell me the year of this motor and if an owners manual is still avaiable.
Thank&#39;s Bob

galamb
06-21-2009, 06:24 PM
"Robert, send me an email, make the subject K550 and I can send you an original owners/parts manual in pdf form - will dig up the year for you as well by then.

The motor itself is a Clinton."

moorish127
06-23-2009, 01:24 AM
"K550,
Thank&#39;s Graham, that would be great. let me know what the cost will be, &amp; I will pay &#40;via&#41; paypal if that&#39;s OK. My e-mail is moorish127@aol.com ("")
Thank&#39;s Again Bob"

galamb
06-23-2009, 12:41 PM
"Robert, my advice &#40;good or bad&#41; any of my on-line collection which has been scrounged over the years is always free.

I have emailed you the file. It&#39;s just a few pages, but is original to the motor and definately worth having..."

moorish127
06-24-2009, 07:12 AM
"Thank&#39;s Graham, I got the motor running great.
Take Care Bob"

moorish127
06-27-2009, 08:16 PM
"GRAHAM, THE MANUAL YOU SENT ME WAS VERY HELPFUL
WITH MY CARBURATOR REBUILD, I DISCOVERED I LISTED THE WRONG NO. THE CORRECT INFO IS AS FOLLOWS;
CLINTON &#40;SEA KING&#41; 3.5 HP
MODEL NO. XTV50535B
SERIAL NO. 1613540
TYPE NO. K350 6106A
THE CORRECT NO. IS K350 NOT K550
I AM TRYING TO FIND A WATER PUMP ASSEMBLY OR AT
LEAST AN IMPELLER FOR MY MOTOR
ALSO DO YOU HAVE A MANUAL FOR THIS MOTOR
SORRY FOR THE SCREW UP.
THANK&#39;S AGAIN GRAHAM"

galamb
06-27-2009, 09:41 PM
"Hi Robert, will get the manual off to you.

You can get parts from www.laingsoutboards.com ("") - check under their Sea King link down the left side of the page."

mrpowell
06-28-2009, 08:10 PM
"I need help. I have received a Seas King 5HP outboard. Model #GG18736 &#40; no letters after &#41; model #16X823401. The motor ran ok to start with and as i tried to run wide open and it began to stall. I tried to figure out what would be doing that. There are two knobs missing on the front. The choke knob on far right works. The knob in the middle is gone, which seems to adjust high speed. Inside the shaft that would have the speed knob on was run all the way in. what does that mean? All the way open or fastest? Also the knob on the left seems to be for low speed. Each knob has 1,2,3,4 locations in a 360 orientation. The only knob inside that has levers to move shafts is the slow speed knob. I have the knob , but it is stripped out. I do not have the knob for the middle &#40; high speed shaft&#41;
Basically when I turn the shaft on the far left &#40;slow speed knob &#41;it only turns 1/8 way around, moving the shaft only a very little. It does not look like it was supposed to function like this originally. Please help me understand how to set everything to start it. After running it for about 20 min on a lake. I started playing with the high speed shaft and the carb. and now I can not get it started to save my life. The hand throttle has no writing on it. I am guessing that setting it in the middle it start location. I am trying to figure out what I need to do to get it started. I can take pics so you can see what has been done. It has new fuel lines and new plugs. I do not know the gap for plugs. It is getting enough fuel and I have used starting spray in the plug port to help. It will not start. I have adjusted the shaft that connects to the slow speed knob all the way in to all the way out, pulling the cord in all the different positions. I now do not have any idea where it need to be. I think it controls lean or rich mixture. If Pics would help I can send. Anything you can tell me would be great."

weisit1
06-30-2009, 10:57 PM
"I have 1961 to 1963 Montgomery Ward 5HP Seaking. Anybody know where I can find the thermostat, and I&#39;m assuming there is one on this motor. Manual said it was at top rear of powerhead under its own little cover, but I don&#39;t see it?!? The impeller isn&#39;t working for some reason, and I was told to check the thermostat 1st. Also is the impeller in the upper gear housing above the cavitation plate? The model # GG18732B, serial # 36X875236. Manufacturer-GALE. Sure would like a repair manual for same. I do have the owners manual. I have rechecked the model# too, the closest number I&#39;ve found is the GG18736, but my number is definately GG18732B, checked and double-checked."

weisit1
07-04-2009, 08:02 PM
"Do these little Mont/ward 5hp seakings have a thermostat? Any other reason for the water cooling system not to work if the systems impeller is good, and no blockage?"

weisit1
07-05-2009, 11:47 PM
"HEY---?!??? IS ANYBODY READING THESE POST, OR AM I WASTING MY TIME HOPING? OR--- how are these post answered, here or my e-address? I sure would appreciate anybodies help on the last two post above. THANK YOU!"

william_m
07-06-2009, 08:50 PM
"A new post starts at the opening page under &#34;start a new discussion&#34; And it&#39;s the 4th of july week end. There is only people with car trouble looking at forumns right now.

There are several ways to get an answer to you questions. Most likely, you can read it both on your computer as an e-mail, and by searching out your question on the forumn it&#39;s self."

moorish127
07-21-2009, 02:23 PM
"Hi Graham, still having problems,
getting good spark and the carb seems to be functiong well, but it just won&#39;t start. It dosen&#39;t appear to be getting any fuel to the combustion chamber. I check the reeds and they looked ok to me, but I&#39;m really not sure what I should be looking for. The reeds are made of material simaliar to thin shim stock.
Also Graham did you get a chance to find a manual.
Here a are the numbers again;
model XTV 50535
serial 1613504
type K350 6106A
Thank&#39;s again I really appreciate it.
Take Care Bob"

moorish127
08-06-2009, 07:27 PM
"Will ever get it right, I&#39;m getting old.
I messed up the numbers again on that 3.5 hp sea king. The type no. is K530 &#40;not K350&#41;.
Can&#39;t find reeds for it.
Thank&#39;s &amp; Take Care Bob"

abearzz
08-23-2009, 06:32 PM
"Can somebody tell me how i need to set the hi and low speed jet knobs on my ward/ seaking &#40;gg9002c&#41;?
It has a choke and two knobs vertical in the center....small knob above large knob...
Thanks in advance...
Also, where is the best place to locate operators mannual?"

nark09
08-26-2009, 09:06 PM
"Hey I got sea king 5 35GG 9014A &#40;1953?&#41; Paid $100 for it, didnt run. Put 2 plugs in it and adj. the pionts to 18 thou.? It ran but no Water. Took it apart, made new gaskets put it back together, wont start. Kid fessed up to turning mixter screw. How far out from seat should it be? Thanks"

speedsailor
10-02-2009, 04:01 PM
"Well I just joined the family too. My Sea King Five is model GG18732A and serial 26X838214. I see from reading above it must be made by Gale in 1962. I&#39;m looking for a parts/service manual. The Johnson/Evinrude website refers customers to www.kencook.com ("") for archived outboard manuals. Unfortunately, Ken Cook doesn&#39;t list my exact model number. It seems the mystery digit it the &#39;2&#39; in the model number GG18732A. They don&#39;t have a listing for this.

In any case, this is a father-son project motor &#40;and accompanying Sea King 14 aluminum boat&#41;. I see there are some very knowledgeable folks here so I welcome some direction. I&#39;m starting cold. Just picked it up yesterday. Guy who sold it said the motor has run fine for years, but wouldn&#39;t start this season. I want to check all the basics: clean the carb, fuel filter, plugs, etc. If anyone has a &#34;common sense starting point&#34; outboard checklist to ensure best outcome for an otherwise unknown motor, please speak up."

mnobfan
10-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Simple compression test - do you feel resistance when you turn the motor over by hand and hear a little whoomp when the pressure releases? Some like to use a gauge for readings. Can&#39;t turn it over at all - either walk away or be prepared to tear it down and rebuild. Next is spark - bright blue spark able to jump 1/4&#34; gap is great. No spark - time to pull the flywheel and check coils and points. If coils are cracked they need to be replaced. Try cleaning and resetting the points unless the end riding on the cam is badly worn or they don&#39;t spring back when pulled open then replace. Once you have spark then go to fuel. Clean the carb and put in a kit. Check the oil in the lower unit for water. If you pull the drain plug and something other than oil comes out it is time to replace the seals in the unit. Drop the lower unit and check the condition of the water pump impeller. Might as well just replace it as long as you have it off. Take it out to the lake for final adjustments to the carb and enjoy it.

baylinerdreams1957
02-05-2010, 04:25 PM
"I have a fully restored excellent running
1947 3.5 HIAWATHA for sale. Im thinking $300.00
If any one want to see photos email me at BAYLINERDREAMS@CLEARWIRE.NET ("")

http://www.marineengine.com/discus/messages/2/375886.jpg"

wesleysullivan
02-20-2010, 11:50 PM
"just joined the site and found alot of interesting info.... thanks to all who take the time to answer our questions here.
well i just inherited my grandfathers old boat.. a 14&#39; Monark with a Sea King 25 outboard the model number is GG8985A with the serial number 85X743041... i have learned from reading earlier posts it is a 58 model but that is all i know could someone please help me figure out the rest.... how many horse power it is and what all the other numbers mean and what they tell us, thanks again for all the help"

mnobfan
02-21-2010, 12:10 PM
"It is a 25 HP motor. The model number indicates the actual manufacturer by the first set of letters. In your case the GG stands for Gale which was a part of OMC. OMC changed the model number every year making it easier to find the year. Montgomery had the serial numbers made so that the first 2 digits are the year in reverse. Basic tuneup parts should be available here as most OMC models shared common parts. You may find a manual here or try posting a message at http://www.aomci.org/ ("") to see if someone there has parts manual they could share via downloading."

steve_in_socal
02-21-2010, 02:26 PM
I just inherited an ancient MW Sea King:

Model# 14EA-8823A Twin Cylinder
Serial# 378 00922

Any information regarding this motor is greatly appreciated. Not sure if it runs yet.

wesleysullivan
02-21-2010, 07:09 PM
"Curt.. thank you for the info very helpful i was starting to wonder if it was a 5 hp, but agin thanks a bunch, one other question i was wondering does anyone know where i could find out the year model of the boat, none of the tags have it just a model number...."

mnobfan
02-21-2010, 07:09 PM
Made by Evinrude in 1941 [could be 1942 also]. 3.3 HP. The 378 in the serial is the Evinrude model.

mnobfan
02-21-2010, 07:24 PM
"Monark has been around since 1959. Now called Starweld by Starcraft. At least according to my search for Monark boats. If it has a state registration number you could try the state. Minnesota will tell you the information it has as to how it was registered in Minnesota if it has the Minnesota registration, even if the tags are expired."

rchidester
03-10-2010, 12:34 PM
I have a
Clinton 127cc 5.5 HP
MODEL K550 6000A
Ser. 158659
I am looking for a owner/parts manual. It may be the same as a 5.5 HP Sea King manual. thos outboard has been settind unattended for several years but seems in good order. if anyone could email me a pdf of just the diagrams or parts it would be helpful.
thanks Randy

usmfd
04-02-2010, 10:10 PM
i have an HD25 (1946-49) johnson 2.5hp sea horse that leaks gas from the needle, and probably needs an impeller, also i have a 1949 montgomery wards sea king 5hp that i just started dismantleing, probably gonna need carb parts too, any info on these matters is greatly appreciated! the johnson is-model HD25 serial#852977 and the gale (omc) is model# 94GG9014A serial# 293549, really anything you can tell me is wonderful, these are neat old motors & are my first boat motor experiences,lol, i also just got a cruise&carry, it runs too but needs carb work, (im obviously no carb man...lol) thanks!!

mnobfan
04-03-2010, 04:14 PM
The HD25 is a 1950 model. The Montgomery motor was made by Gale (part of OMC). The people over at http://www.aomci.org/ can provide lots of help on these two motors. The impeller for the HD25 is available at this site as part #300583. The fuel from the needle sounds like the packing needs to be replaced. You might try just tightening up the nut but the packing is likely damaged. Run the HD25 on a 16:1 fuel/oil mix.

John 61
06-22-2010, 04:16 PM
Hoping someone can tell me fuel/mix for Seaking Mont Wards Model VWB27406, Serial 37X20060

snapshot46
06-23-2010, 11:54 PM
I have a 1957 Sea King 5HP Model #GG9003A, I would like to run on my old 12 ft. Lone Star. Anyways, I'm having trouble keeping it running. She'll fire up for a few seconds and then die. I have a suspect condenser that will be replaced as soon as I can get my hands on a new replacement. New plugs gapped at .035 and points gapped at .020. To get it running, I have to hold the prime knob over until it floods gas and then she'll fire for a short spurt. There wasn't a fuel filter on it until I installed one. I haven't gotten into the carb yet but I'm afraid thats coming. Anyone ever come across a problem like this before on this engine? What's are the guts of the carb like? Is it complicated?
Bill

londracek
06-26-2010, 03:35 AM
I have a 1963 GG 18801A Sea king - which is made by Gale. I actually have the same issue - I've taken the carb off and rebuilt it. It's really rather simple. But it still won't stay running for more than 20 seconds. Took the flywheel cover off and both of the coils are in very bad shape, probably fried. I'm going to order new ones with the hopes that it takes care of the problem. It seems like Laings Outboards has a good supply of parts fr these older motors. You can Google them.

Lou

speedsailor
06-26-2010, 06:29 PM
Well, I got my Sea King Five running today after priming the cylinders. Now that I've had a chance to play with it, I regret that it is painfully apparent the well-intending previous owner has sufficiently modified the throttle linkage (jury rigged) to the point that I'm not interested in investing the $$ to put it back to normal--assuming that's possible. Thus, if anyone here wants a free motor to canibalize for parts, you can have it. I live in the SF Bay Area. Come get it, and it's yours.

snapshot46
06-28-2010, 11:07 AM
Lou, Have you seen Doug Penn's Youtube.com demonstration for checking out old outboard motor coils? It might be worth the effort to check them out first. Just do a search on Youtube for Doug Penn. How did you go about cleaning out your carb ports? Did you use solvents?
I've got one condenser that is rusted and nasty looking but am going to replace both of them, as soon as the replacements get here from Ebay. Keep me posted as to how you make out with your unit. I'll do the same here!
Bill

mnobfan
07-04-2010, 11:25 AM
Here is a link to Doug Penn's videos. http://penn.itgo.com/videos.html

mikcha61
07-29-2010, 11:34 PM
"I have a 45gg-9015a mongomery ward seaking 5hp i know that it is a 1954 made by gale mod 5d10 but i cant find any parts manuals, the motor has good compression but cant really test any farther because i dont know which spark plugs i need. if any one could help me that would be great."
I also have a 45gg-9015a with the orginal parts manual. It lists the part number as 200-322 for a cost of 85 cents. This motor has been in the attic for 26 years. Just recently brought it from dads house. I have not tried to get it running yet.

Chzyrider
08-10-2010, 12:56 AM
Hey all, I'm looking for sources for information on a 1954 Sea King 5hp motor. Model; 45GG-9014A
It has been sitting unused for over 20 years and I'm hoping to find some diagrams before I begin tearing into it to clean it.

I see some folks here in this thread have mentioned access to PDF files...
Can you help with this motor?

So far... I found a book source for service manual and parts catalog, but they are very expensive.
http://www.outboardbooks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=models.main&year=1954&ID=127958

canyonero76
08-11-2010, 02:18 AM
Where is the best place to find carb and fuel pump rebuild for a 1974 7 1/2hp by clinton engine? Thanks.

pathfinderz1
08-19-2010, 02:05 PM
"Hi,
I&#39;ve been reading these posts with a great deal of interest. Recently &#40;Oct. 20, 2007&#41; I was scuba diving in Lake Minnetonka when in about 7 feet of water I discovered a Montgomery Ward model#35GG-9015A Sea King 5 motor laying on the bottom. I brought the motor home with me. The lake has caused some corrosion and the gas cap is missing but I would think that this motor could be used for parts. It must have been running very well before it went to the bottom of the lake because it still has part of the boat in its grip. Does anyone have advise on what I should do with this motor? 612-221-1282"
I would squart some trans fluid in each cyl and let it sit over night and see if it will trun over. I got a motor that had been under water for I don't know how long and one cyl was full of water and rust. Soked it over night and got it to turn over. The went though the carb and check points. Got it back togather put some fuel in the carb and turn it over a few times with out the plugs. put the plugs back in and it fired right up. Then checked compressinon and was 120lb in each. So give it a try.
Mike aka pathfinderz1

bedrock
07-14-2011, 06:40 PM
i have the same problem did you figure it out

pkdj07
12-16-2011, 03:08 AM
I have a chance to buy one like yours was hoping maybe to get a picture of yours to compare it to
my email is pkdj42@yahoo.com all the searching i have done confirms eveything
on yours and mine my serial is 378 00387 model 14EA8823A the 14 is the yr backwards so there both 1941 made by evinrude for Mongomery Wards 3.3hp 2 cyl. the one im looking at is rough so i'm hoping yours looks more like it should. Thanks in advance if you respond.



I just inherited an ancient MW Sea King:

Model# 14EA-8823A Twin Cylinder
Serial# 378 00922

Any information regarding this motor is greatly appreciated. Not sure if it runs yet.

pkdj07
12-16-2011, 03:21 AM
Re: I just inherited an ancient MW
Check this page out.
http://discount-marine-parts.com/ob_sea_king_2.html

purefunction
03-06-2012, 10:29 AM
I just acquired a 5hp Montgomery ward sea king. Only markings are model # k5003108c serial #1050664 type xtv52250 Clinton engines corp. What all can you tell me about it. The engine itself appears to be air cooled but it has the holes and such in the lower unit that makes you think its water cooled. Also it doesn't have an air filter housing? it has two screws on either side of the carb where one would bolt up but then the choke lever goes over top the flange that a filter housing would seal? I can take pictures if needed on that one. Are carb. rebuild kits still availiable for these?

buzzrd
04-28-2012, 12:55 AM
I ahve sea king 5 model# gg18801a I would like to know what year it is. I am pretty sure it is a gale because of gg in searial#

buzzrd
04-28-2012, 01:00 AM
i have a sea king 5 model# gg18801a I would like to know what year it is. I am pretty sure it is a gale because of gg in model number

kimcrwbr1
04-28-2012, 08:56 AM
i have a sea king 5 model# gg18801a I would like to know what year it is. I am pretty sure it is a gale because of gg in model number

http://www.discount-marine-parts.com/ob_sea_king_gale_model.html 1963 gale

kimcrwbr1
04-28-2012, 08:59 AM
http://www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1963&hp=5.5 parts

fisherman05
06-02-2013, 04:32 PM
sea king 3.5 outboard the gas ratio is sae#30 or 40 1/2pt for every gallon according to my motor its a 1966

donparadowski
11-03-2013, 12:05 PM
I have the complete 35GG9015A owners manual. You are welcome to a copy. I am looking for a copy of the model 45GG-9015A serial # 529731 motor. I am getting ready to replace the water pump impellor and repair the damage after my sister set it on fire (she did now understand the function of the prime). She left it on flooded the motor, half of Lake St. Clair, and the stern of the boat. They had to abandon ship and fight the fire from the water. Our father had just asked me to tune the motor and I took it home to do same. I was assembling the necessary parts when she called up and said something to the effect like: "Dad says you have the motor and he said I can borrow it when you are done fixing it". I told her that I was still buying parts and that it just barely runs and not to use it because you might get stranded. Well she came by one day when I was not home. took it...well you know the story. Sadly our father died before I have finished the project. I would really like a repair manual before going into the lower end. I can be reached at donparadowski@yahoo.com

dooley
05-29-2014, 11:59 AM
motor won't run smooth ? won't start after setting all winter ? needs to be choked to run ? ...clean the carb . take it apart and lay the parts out on something clean ... then clean the parts with lacquer thinner .. it cuts gunk very well and very quick. ream out jets and passages with "tip cleaners" (they are what is used to clean out gas cutting torches and brassing tips) the tip cleaner sets are cheap and have a file on each size rod ... 90 % of the time a good cleaning will solve the above problems.......