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I think it's overcharging 50 HP Johnson

Helplessone

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I have a 50 HP Johnson (J50plssm) that the voltmeter indicates charging at 18, also the tach jumps all over the place and the fishfinder/depthfinder is not at all accurate. could it be the voltage regulator? If so how do I replace it? Other than that the motor runs fine.

Thanks,

Helplessone
 
Overcharging, yes. However first check ground connections on regulator/rectifier before changing it out. This system regulates by grounding one 'fase' of the AC from stator and if ground fails, this may happen.
 
If you find the ground not to be at fault, do the following test.

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)
A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.
NOTE: For the later models that DO NOT incorporate a wiring terminal strip, splicing into the "Yellow Wire" mentioned will be necessary.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.

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do you have a regulator or is it a rectifier only charging system?have you by any chance just replaced the battery with a new one?
 
is it a rectifier only charging system?if it is it may be the battery....a sealed battery or a jell battery is a definite no-no on these motors....in fact a good marine battery will have the problem.....the battery called for by the owners manual is probably in the 360 to 400 cca range...i dont have the specs on that but that is close...the fix is to go to a cheap battery or convert your charging system to a regulator....maybe some one can jump in and give you scoop on where to get the regulator and how to wire it...but i do know that your symptoms fit the battery problem exactly....basic the problem is that the newer better batteries will take whatever you give them and the rectifier only system is unregulated.....there is no internal battery discharge as in the older batteries...
 
joe reeves can probably help you to find a regulator...he may even have one....that the real fix and its bot that expensive...
 
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