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alternator dead two batteries help

VERA1979

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:confused: Ok I have two Decca batteries. one deepcycle and one starter. How shoould I hook these up in order to use the deepcycle when boat isnt running and both when boat is.

I just ran a jumper from my main connected battery (deepcycle) - to - on starter battery.
and + from main battery (deepcycle) to a switch then to the + on the starter battery.
sothat they both charge when running and only the deepcycle runs when engine isnt.

should I do this different??

My alternator died the other day so I thought I ask the pros!!! help help help
 
Ok, that makes sense. But is there a cheaper way other than the dual pro charge unit? what is the isolator called so i can searchgoogle??
 
First and foremost, be sure you get a MARINE rated alternator. Normally, the bigger the better. Marine alternators are especially designed to not spark and initiate an explosion of fuel vapors in the motor area.

As for deep cycle batteries - I've given up on them. Unless you are running really power hungry accessories on your boat - a lot of windless work or a trolling motor, you do not need a deep cycle battery. Two cranking batteries wired to a A, A/B, B selector switch is all you need. On my boat I constantly run a map/GPS, sounder, SIRIUS weather receiver, two VHF radios, an on-demand raw water pump, and various other light-load equipment. Two starting batteries work fine. Last pair lasted for over five years, and I only changed them out as a precautionary move. I always start and run the motor on the A/B setting to keep both batteries charged. If one fails, I have a back-up.

Here is a short, very good description I swiped off the Internet awhile ago...[h=4]ARCO Tech Tips for Alternator Charging Systems[/h]
ENGINE HORSEPOWER REQUIRED FOR ALTERNATORS
For every 23 AMPS of alternator output about one horsepower is required. FOR EXAMPLE: A 12 volt,115 AMP alternator requires 5 horsepower. (115 divided by 23 = 5 horsepower). A 24 volt unit requires twice the horsepower.

ALTERNATORS ARE NOT BATTERY CHARGERS
Alternators are designed to supply current for the accessory load and maintain the charge of the battery. Most alternators can safely charge at only two-thirds of their maximum rated output. When trying to recharge a dead battery, the alternator will charge at maximum output for extended periods of time causing the alternator to overheat. High heat destroys transistors, diodes and windings.

ONE-WIRE ALTERNATORS CAN NOT BE USED WITH BATTERY ISOLATORS
One-wire alternators, sometimes referred to as self-exciting alternators, require battery voltage at the output terminal in order to charge. Since battery isolators eliminate the battery voltage to the alternator, you must use a battery isolator with an ignition excite capability or modifications must be made to the alternator to allow ignition excitation.

ALTERNATORS MUST TURN THE PROPER RPM IN ORDER TO FUNCTION
Just because the alternator looks like it's turning, doesn't mean it's turning fast enough to charge. Most alternators do not start charging until they reach 1,000 RPM alternator shaft speed. 5,000 RPM alternator shaft speed is normally required to reach maximum output. If you're not sure what the alternator shaft speed is, you can determine this with the pulley ratio. Measure the diameter of the crank shaft or drive pulley and the alternator pulley. Divide the crank shaft pulley diameter by the alternator pulley diameter. This figure would be the engine-to-alternator RPM ratio. A normal ratio would be 2.5 to 1. For example, let's say we have a 7 inch diameter crank shaft pulley and a 2.75 inch alternator pulley. We would divide 7 inches by 2.75 which equals 2.54 to 1. If the engine was turning 1,000 RPM we would multiply 1,000 by 2.54 which would give us 2,540 alternator RPM.
Again, with today's high amperage alternators, belt condition and tension are critical in proper alternator performance.

ALTERNATORS WILL CHARGE WHEN TURNING IN EITHER DIRECTION NEVER DISCONNECT THE BATTERY CABLE WHEN THE ALTERNATOR IS CHARGING
A common practice with the old generator system was to disconnect the battery cable while the engine was running to see if the generator was working. If this procedure is done on today's transistorized alternator systems, severe damage to the internal components of the alternator usually will be the end result.
This includes using a battery selector switch while the engine is running.
 
It is always best to use a boat charging system to MAINTAIN a charge.....make sure the batteries are fully charged when the boat is launched or charge them at the dock at night if possible if on a multi day trip....reduce current and reduce heat and stress on the charging system....reduce heat under the flywheel and less chance of a stator failure on an outboard...keep current draw to a minimum and dont lose alternator diodes on inboards... and keep the plugs in good shape and reduce power pack failures....pay attention to the cook around the house and you eat better....pay attention to the engine of your boat and you dont get stranded...
 
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